To: jack bittner who wrote (641 ) 7/2/2000 9:05:15 AM From: Wyätt Gwyön Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2260 Jack,When you write "irony of ironies" I take it you mean I have no idea how much more glw is at the heart of the technology than is nt, or anyone else. I didn't mean to imply anything about GLW vis-a-vis NT. I'm not knowledgeable enough to do so. Rather, I was alluding (kind of ineptly) to the possible merger of GLW and SDLI (rumored; who knows if it's true yet). It would put our discussion in a bit of an ironic light (taking place here on the GLW thread where it doesn't belong after all), but "irony of ironies" was a bit hyperbolic on my part. I just can't resist The Zing <g>. Sorry, I don't know enough about GLW to give you a rundown on them...only the obvious stuff which I'm sure you know as well. I have only cursory knowledge of the capital-structure issues relating to the megacap systems providers. However, I tend to believe there is no free lunch, even in Canada. This means that I don't think NT can offer financing terms to carriers that pass through to banks with complete transparency. I say this in an a priori kind of way. If NT is able to pass off risk to creditors, then it must presumably make up the difference in terms of a spread debit (lower margins) or extended payment terms. You say they sell the paper, so obviously the banks are taking vig--otherwise, why would they bother? (Simply put, NT cannot give the banks all the risk without giving them some reward that NT would not have if the carriers could finance the purchases directly.) I really don't know about the particulars, but if you do, I'd be happy to be enlightened. On this subject, I have read recently that Cisco is starting to do some equipment financing. For an interesting take on NT vs. LU, see Message 13511782 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Qtera is a customer of JDSU and/or SDLI. When that purchase was made, I think there was a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth that it might be a "JDSU killer", but then people came up with reasons why this wasn't so. Perhaps if somebody knows they can put up the particulars. I am no expert on the industry, but the component guys don't seem to think they are going to go out of business in a few years. If they were smart enough to get this far, they should (hopefully) be smart enough to survive. Obviously, they are working on consolidating, widening their product lines, and moving up the food chain by providing modules and the like. I don't think there's any guaranteed winner in investing, but to me it makes sense to go where the growth and money is. Also, look at management. I think that matters more and more. On all counts, SDLI seems like a very attractive company. But the tech world always moves fast, so there's no rest for the wicked. BTW, I appreciate your input on NT.