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To: Robert T. Quasius who wrote (1482)7/2/2000 4:40:40 PM
From: Tunica Albuginea  Respond to of 4155
 
Robert T. Quasius, definitely CNC is undervalued at these or even higher prices.
Why do you think Gary Wendt too it over? Wendt was doing fine as
it is . Hecould have had the pick of anything after what he did with GE Capital.

We have here 17,000 employees ( CSCO has 21000 <vbg>), so
we don't have to go out looking for any in these days
of thight labor markets.. If anything there is room to
downsize to the most efficient which in this climate of
rising rates and downsizing is just fine.

We got 8 bill in sales and 50 bill assets under management.

I think Wendt can do sometning with that, <vbg>.

TA

Message #1482 from Robert T. Quasius at Jul 2, 2000 1:35 PM
CNC is still very undervalued at these prices. If we multiply the consensus estimate of $1.9 for FY00 by a P/E of 10, we come up with an intrinsic valuation of $19. The other stocks in this sector sell at a P/E of 10, but have lower growth rates of around 12%.

Even discounting the P/E for the present troubles, likely write-down for GT Finance, etc., the stock is still at a significant discount. If it moves up into the low to mid teens next week, I predict the shorts will panic big time. Remember, they can have margin calls too and many of them are probably already getting margin calls.




To: Robert T. Quasius who wrote (1482)7/2/2000 10:34:47 PM
From: StaggerLee  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4155
 
Figure a lot of margin notices were received Friday and Saturday to be settled on Monday.

Wendt gets one chance to clean up the books under the "old regime's" scorecard. If there's anything soft on the balance sheet, I think it will go away in this quarter's earnings report. They've got an awful lot of goodwill hanging out there ($3.9 billion or $12/share). Also another $6/share hung up in "other assets." Now's the time to take any remaining charges.

Wendt was a huge score for CNC.



To: Robert T. Quasius who wrote (1482)7/5/2000 7:57:02 PM
From: Forrest  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4155
 
Since earnings will take a while to recover.

Compare ONE
Sales 17.8 billion
Market Cap 33.6 billion

To CNC
Sales 8.5 billion
Market Cap 3.2 billion and by rough comparison should be 15 billion.

I'm not sure these numbers reflect todays prices but given they both have CEO's with great credentials then possibly CNC could logically be $50.

But the traders may keep it in a tight range. No offense meant.