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To: Elmer who wrote (119016)	7/3/2000 8:06:06 PM
From: eplace	Respond to of 1578143

Elmer...Here's a post to Engel from last night. siliconinvestor.com Paul, the same challenge I put forward to Elmer I put to you. Post your guesses for Goutama's contest. I don't believe you and Elmer want to join the contest. It's a no win situation for you guys. You aim low and you guys look like the idiots you are, because we all know AMD is going to blow out earnings again. If you aim higher, then you might be accused of being AMDroids. What do you do? Of course, you do nothing but not respond. I will keep posting this to you and Elmer give some sort of reply. Chickens. Ed P. Well Elmer...put up or shut up.

To: Elmer who wrote (119016)	7/3/2000 8:06:15 PM
From: eplace	Respond to of 1578143

Elmer...Here's a little message sent to Engel yesterday. siliconinvestor.com Paul, the same challenge I put forward to Elmer I put to you. Post your guesses for Goutama's contest. I don't believe you and Elmer want to join the contest. It's a no win situation for you guys. You aim low and you guys look like the idiots you are, because we all know AMD is going to blow out earnings again. If you aim higher, then you might be accused of being AMDroids. What do you do? Of course, you do nothing but not respond. I will keep posting this to you and Elmer give some sort of reply. Chickens. Ed P Well Elmer...put up or shut up.

To: Elmer who wrote (119016)	7/3/2000 8:06:21 PM
From: milo_morai	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578143

Propagation delays and capicitive coupling "Why would 1GHz TBirds have tighter timing demands when they run the same bus/port protocol as all other Athlons? Aside from power requirements I don't see how it matters what frequency the processor runs at, it still looks the same to the MB. " Because the L2 operates at much higher speeds the propagation of signals becomes more of a Issue. Different MB makers may have different physical layouts and didn't take these timing issues(propagation delay) into consideration. You also may have issues with capacitive coupling between traces runs as Fo increases (Xc=1/2piFoC) Milo

To: Elmer who wrote (119016)	7/3/2000 8:06:16 PM
From: milo_morai	Respond to of 1578143

Propagation delays and capicitive coupling "Why would 1GHz TBirds have tighter timing demands when they run the same bus/port protocol as all other Athlons? Aside from power requirements I don't see how it matters what frequency the processor runs at, it still looks the same to the MB. " Because the L2 operates at much higher speeds the propagation of signals becomes more of a Issue. Different MB makers may have different physical layouts and didn't take these timing issues(propagation delay) into consideration. You also may have issues with capacitive coupling between traces runs as Fo increases (Xc=1/2piFoC) Milo

To: Elmer who wrote (119016)	7/3/2000 8:06:15 PM
From: milo_morai	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578143

Propagation delays and capacitive coupling "Why would 1GHz TBirds have tighter timing demands when they run the same bus/port protocol as all other Athlons? Aside from power requirements I don't see how it matters what frequency the processor runs at, it still looks the same to the MB. " Because the L2 operates at much higher speeds the propagation of signals becomes more of a Issue. Different MB makers may have different physical layouts and didn't take these timing issues(propagation delay) into consideration. You also may have issues with capacitive coupling between traces runs as Fo increases (Xc=1/2piFoC) Milo