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To: Z268 who wrote (76740)	7/16/2000 11:02:08 AM
From: Ruffian	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

<As I said in a previous post, the current technological superiority of CDMA2000 over W-CDMA by itself will not ensure the dominance of CDMA2000 in the Asian market (the KEY market for CDMA2000), with the likely outcome for the NA and European markets already in little doubt.> For the life of me i can't understand the relevance of the above statement. IJ has stated over and over Q's support for both standards, but wants rapid deployment. Why does this concern you so much? Doubts on Q's IPR re; W-CDMA?

To: Z268 who wrote (76740)	7/16/2000 11:19:17 AM
From: foundation	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

"As I said in a previous post, the current technological superiority of CDMA2000 over W-CDMA by itself will not ensure the dominance of CDMA2000 in the Asian market (the KEY market for CDMA2000), with the likely outcome for the NA and European markets already in little doubt." ---------- In light of conflicting statements concerning wCDMA from Korea, Japan, and Europe, I would challenge you, or anyone, to tell us what wCDMA is - or rather will be - or rather might become. I suspect that the "definition" of wCDMA will become even more fragmented and even less clear as 1x is rolled out and NTT comes closer to its May 2001 deadline. regards, blg

To: Z268 who wrote (76740)	7/16/2000 11:26:47 AM
From: The Verve	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

Steven, IJ has publicly stated on more than one occasion he DOESN'T CARE which form of CDMA gets adopted. He 'prefers' CDMA 2000 due to it's technological superiority and because it will be available sooner. IJ has stated all along that he wants widescale CDMA adoption as soon as possible. Pondering which version is more likely to be adopted is an exercise in futility. Q wins either way. The only question is what % of ASIC market share Q will have in the WCDMA market, if that ugly bastard version ever gets out of the lab. That question is open for debate, but even if Q weren't to sell one WCDMA ASIC, they still receive a waterfall of royalty revenue. Royalty profits are going to crush ASIC profits anyway. The BIG money is in the royalties. You should go to Q's website and listen to all their analyst meetings for a clearer picture... Verve

To: Z268 who wrote (76740)	7/16/2000 4:02:13 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 152472

ido.co.jp Subscriber growth in one company. IDO in Japan. Notice how some of their networks are declining as CDMA grows. That's a reason to own Q! Here's another. Click on 'Strategy for the future'. Notice how the graph sort of goes straight up. www1.ido.co.jp Here are the subscriber devices available. 3 years ago, there were just a handful. cdg.org Click on "Product Pavilion" then "Subscriber Equipment". Notice how thin Nokia is for such a dominant company in other air interfaces...oooops. Notice how WWeb is coming. If you think cellphones were big, wait till you see the stupendously huge effects and money movement from that. Q! owns mobile WWeb = all must pass through the Q! tollgate to WWeb. Stephen, what thuggery have you experienced? That sounds like a devaluation of a word. Some here have threatened violence and that is thuggery. Also, you don't seem to be censored. Look, you have written posts. The Q! Moderated thread is to avoid discussions like this one, which have been conducted, over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. It also keeps it leaner and meaner so people [all of us] can get the juicy bits in a short time, which we all like to do sometimes. Thread bloat is a big problem. So are people like Rajala who don't really debate. They are primarily interested in insult. There are so many like him that they need to be excluded. There are plenty of places to post. Many people [me] welcome opposing views because it is the things I don't know or don't think of which will sink my investment. Opposing views does not mean "your feet stink and you are a moron" or "You're a weirdo" which is what particularly moronic-type people write as a complete post as though that contributes anything to existence. So post away. I am very keen to be aware of any defects in Q! business you can find. I go hunting myself. I found OFDM a couple of years ago. Also Time Domain. Indranet.co.nz [seems to have disappeared]. I travel around the world looking for competition and defects and confirmation that things do really work and to see that there really are technologies, people etc. Having done that, I own only CDMA stock [Q! and G!]. I am that confident of their success. So far, so good. I've been following Q! since 1991. Irwin Jacobs and co have extremely high credibility. Ericy [Lar Ramqvist], Nokia, IDC and others have near zero credibility. If you believe their FUD and lies, you will lose money. The GSM world's ethics really have been abysmal and continue to be. They are deliberately deceiving people into thinking there really will be a W-CDMA without need for Q! technology. That is palpable fraud - maybe legal, but fraud. Mqurice