To: Ausdauer who wrote (12985 ) 7/17/2000 5:56:39 PM From: Allegoria Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 60323 Ausdauer, first let me say that I appreciate your tireless effort and contributions to this thread and I am sure that everyone here feels enriched by your labor. Thank you from all of us. However, where you and I have conducted a public discussion I would ask that you be careful not to attribute to me words, agreements or assertions which I myself do not make and/or which I do not agree. I simply cannot participate otherwise. I have attempted to be as factual and straightforward as my writing abilities allow (which I know are limited), and would appreciate reciprocity (Thank God for 'spell-check"!) Ausdauer, you made the following assertion about the SSTI's ADC which I do not think is correct:In essence you are describing SanDisk's technology as it relates to CF and MMC, only ADC is embedded. Can you please clarify this statement w.r.t. your claim about "SanDisk's technology". ADC is solid state flash memory: nothing to do with "SanDisk's technology". I am unaware that the ATA/IDE protocol SSTI uses is "SanDisk's technology". Do you have facts that the ATA/IDE protocol is proprietary? Certainly the micro controller and file management firmware that SSTI uses to communicate with the ATA standard interfaces has nothing to do with "SanDisk's technology". So exactly how do you claim that I was "describing SanDisk's technology as it relates to CF and MMC…"? You then go on to say: Then we agree that for ADC specifically... NO, Ausdauer - we do not agree. Why do you say we do? 1) the "single-chip" claims are unsubstantiated (either because the current SSTI expertise does not allow this or that you confirmed this is a multi-chip solution with SSTI). Has it occurred to you that there might be other reasons besides lack of SSTI expertise, regardless of my confirmation with SSTI? I am starting to notice more and more that you deliberately phrase in a way which boxes out other valid arguments. Remember where the "single-chip" claim originated…SSTI specifically states that the ADC is a "multi-chip packaged device". Ref: (http://www.ssti.com/news/news078.html ) 2) SSTI will create a 64 MB ADC (as you yourself posted). See for yourself: Ref: ssti.com 3) SSTI will not use high density flash to create the 64 MB ADC (your assertion, not mine). Please, if for only my benefit: point to the precise assertion you allude to. Where did I say that SSTI will not use high density flash to create the 64 MB ADC? This is the type of duplicity I have seen used on other threads and I want no part of it. PLEASE - just the facts. 4) that you are not really sure whether SuperFlash is used in manufacturing the controller, the flash component, or both. NO. SuperFlash IS used in manufacturing the controller and the flash component. 5) That it has not been clarified whether the ATA/IDE functionality that ADC uses for its embedded flash requires licensing from SanDisk. I would be amazed if any royalties were involved. Okay, I hope the ground stays level for a while. And just to move the discussion forwards, what is your take on the following from SSTI:"We believe the ubiquity of wireless data transfer to be enabled by the Bluetooth technology in the future may constrain the growth of removable flash card products. Our entry into the embedded mass data storage market allows SST to target a potentially multi-billion dollar digital electronics market that will benefit greatly from a semiconductor equivalent to a hard disk drive." Good luck, Eric