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To: greenspirit who wrote (8653)	7/17/2000 7:27:17 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9127

Michael, I think you are right in many respects, and I don't see that as disagreeing with me much at all :) As a matter of fact I had a very dear and incredibly brilliant friend in grad school who was gay- and then met an equally brilliant woman and fell in love with her, and they married and had children. Heck, he may have loved her whether she was male or female; it was an extremely intellectual relationship. For their first wedding anniversary, she gave him the OED. People are seldom black or white, so we're forced to speak in generalities a great deal. What is troubling to me is to hear people imply that homosexuality is an evil wicked sinful choice, and that those who are trying to carve out morally responsible, rewarding lives for themselves within the confines of their sexuality are contemptible. I suppose it could be a choice in the sense that abstinence is a choice for a priest, but I think we are wired fairly definitively from birth. What we do with our desires and needs will always be influenced by any number of variables. What is sad is to consider that the confused, disturbed ones may be that way becuase of parents or churches or communities who denied them acceptance. But absolutely there are no absolutes, and if I sounded that way, it was only so as not get too muddy when I wrote- which I have a tendency to do.

To: greenspirit who wrote (8653)	7/17/2000 9:05:12 PM
From: Master (Hijacked)	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9127

"Environment can play a role in the identification of sexual orientation. Just as it can play a role in many other things. " Michael, I couldn't agree with you more. Men are not born "women abusers". Yet sociologists tell us time and time again that a boy raised in a household with a father who constantly physically abuses his wife, in turn stands a greater likelihood of beating his own wife at a later date. These same sociologists also tell us that a child, victim of a pedophile, stands a greater likelihood of become a child molester himself. My question to these so-called sociologists is that how can they on the one hand say that the environment in which you are raised will have such a great impact in your life and on the other hand "deny" that exposure to gay parents increases the likelihood that the child will become gay?