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To: Joe NYC who wrote (2404)	7/26/2000 3:56:35 PM
From: kash johal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Joe, I second your suggestions. Well thought out imho. regards, Kash

To: Joe NYC who wrote (2404)	7/26/2000 6:15:56 PM
From: TGPTNDR	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Joe, I like your suspend proposal, but fear that it's going to be kind of hard on Mani to sort through & keep track of the current status of warnings/voting/PMs. I wouldn't wish it on a dog. What happens at the end of the 2 week suspension -- does the re-instated individual get another 3 private warnings, one public warning and a vote or does he get the vote immediately - or one public warning and a vote? It really puts Mani in a difficult position. Does Mani have to listen to complaints and make the decisions -- This complaint deserves a warning, that one doesn't? He's going to be going nuts trying to figure out which of rambust/itanic/athwipe/etc. are offensive. My position is that all of them were funny for a while and they all got old and offensive. Do we need a list of things that Just aren't funny anymore? After what length of time is a complaint washed from the individuals history? I think most of us agree that point of view is not the issue, but rather basic decorum -- with LARGE allowances tossed in for funny stuff, anger, frustration, etc. IE NO Warnings to anybody for anything 'till the thread decides that something isn't funny anymore, or that they have had ENOUGH of some kind of commentary and the opinion of NOT APPROPRIATE gets posted, on the thread, by the person who thinks it's NOT APPROPRIATE anymore(or perhaps never was) & gets agreed upon by a majority in pm to somebody, then posted back to the thread. Just food for thought -- I think Mani is honorable & trying to do a difficult and very good thing. I cast a vote to ditch Paul. tgptndr