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To: Frank_Ching who wrote (8964)7/27/2000 1:03:31 AM
From: Sir Auric Goldfinger  Read Replies (6) | Respond to of 10354
 
ACCOUNTING ISSUES take the lead in securities-fraud class-action suits.

The number of securities-fraud lawsuits filed in federal court fell 14% in
1999, reversing a three-year trend, says a study by
PricewaterhouseCoopers, New York. But more than half of the 205 suits
filed involved alleged violations of Generally Accepted Accounting
Principles. The firm says it was the first time accounting outpaced other
types of alleged fraud since the 1995 Private Securities Litigation Reform
Act, which made it more difficult to prove a class-action claim.

But plaintiffs may be finding ways to mine the
act's "safe harbor." In the old days, suits were
often based on profit projections that didn't
pan out. But firms now get some shelter from
the act when making forward-looking statements. So, plaintiffs increasingly
are challenging reported earnings as having been doctored, says Harvey
Kelly, a PricewaterhouseCoopers partner. Day-trading may sharpen the
trend as unhappy traders who bought high and sold low fish for accounting
errors to blame.

Last year, nearly 10% of the 108 suits that alleged accounting fraud
focused on a single quarter.

interactive.wsj.com



To: Frank_Ching who wrote (8964)7/27/2000 6:12:29 AM
From: Nikolaus Morokutti  Respond to of 10354
 
hi frank!

i was an zsun investor too (btw still holding more than 50000 shares) but i am very disappointed about the way zsun and its related parties (amber=capital group) are working
i had so many problems with them and was very patient but there is a point an investor stops believing in stories...
one time you want to see results... and sorry there are no results... e.g. the amex case... i was told over a year ago zsun will change to the nasday stockmarket... half a year ago they told me zsun will change to the amex... i got at least 30times the answer... just a couple of weeks.... those weeks are now more than 60weeks... that was only the amex case... there are so many more things which an investor doesnot like.... finally i lost a lot of money... but i learned...



To: Frank_Ching who wrote (8964)7/27/2000 9:48:12 AM
From: StockDung  Respond to of 10354
 
"Remember, BASHERS NEVER Bash A BAD STOCK."

What a moron



To: Frank_Ching who wrote (8964)7/27/2000 9:57:00 AM
From: StockDung  Respond to of 10354
 
Why does ZSUN not have any fundamentals? Why is ZSUN worth less than one dollar?

By: frisky $$$
Reply To: None Wednesday, 26 Jul 2000 at 8:18 PM EDT
Post # of 24386


Why does ZSUN not have any fundamentals? Why is ZSUN worth less than one dollar?
(1) ZSUN changed its name from a bankrupt beverage refilling company, Bestway USA in September 1998.

(2) ZSUN's auditor, Jones & Jensen, has been charged by SEC for not following Generally Accepted Auditing Standards in an unrelated audit.

(3) ZSUN reversely merged with a money-losing printing and tele-marketing company, New Age Publication in Philippines in October 1998. The company had a net asset of $807,956 including an accumulated deficit of $20,670 as of December 31, 1997. It later changed its name to Momentum Asia. ZSUN issued 4,000,000 shares for Momentum Asia. The deal was handled by a counsel who was found guilty in participating the pump-and-dump scheme of Electro-Optical Systems by a U S court.

(4) ZSUN acquired Momentum Internet from Anthony Tobin's Vulcan Consultants in October 1998. At the time of acquisition, Momentum Internet has no assets. In fact, Mr. Tobin borrowed $70,000 from New Age Publication. Mr. Tobin later paid back with 130,000 shares of ZSUN (split-adjusted) in December 1998. In other words, Mr. Tobin received $70,000 and 1,000,000 shares (split-adjusted) from ZSUN.

(5) At time of the formation, ZSUN exchanged its own shares with related parties: TMOT, DDD and LCAI. If the shares were not restricted, ZSUN classified them as marketable securities. If they were restricted, ZSUN classified them as common stock held to maturity. If ZSUN had sold their own shares, ZSUN could only have classified the excess of par as additional paid-in capital. In other words, ZSUN shifted the capital raising activities into investing activities. The cost of owning TMOT, DDD, LCAI was negligible. Therefore, ZSUN could generate a huge amount of realized and unrealized gain on marketable securities in 1998 and 1999.

(6) ZSUN lost good deal of money in Momentum Asia and Momentum Internet in 1998. However, it booked $535,802 of realized gain on marketable securities and $712,438 of unrealized gain on marketable securities to hide the loss from Internet businesses. ZSUN then issued several press releases on 2/8/99, 3/13/99, 5/27/99 and claimed that it had $.47 basic EPS and $.11 diluted EPS. ZSUN even posted its "audited" financial statements on its web site. Jones & Jensen issued an unqualified opinion on the financial statements. Suckers flocked in, especially the uninformed foreigners, bought the stock based on the false and misleading financial figures. ZSUN stock was pumped up to as high as $17. We later discovered that sales were overstated from $760,520 to $2,289,158. The loss on BVEX of $165,449 was not reported. The diluted EPS was only $.04. If one excludes the realized and unrealized gain from TMOT, DDD and LCAI, one will discover that ZSUN incurred a loss per share of $.03 in 1998. ZSUN filed seven versions of 10sb, one version of financial statements posted in its web site. Surprisingly, Jones & Jensen issued unqualified opinion for all different versions of financial statements for 1998 and 1999. IMHO, ZSUN and Jones & Jensen have violated Section 17 (a) of Securities Act of 1933, Section 9, Section 10 and Section 10a of Securities Act of 1934.

(7)ZSUN acquired Asia4sale.com from Brian Hodgson. ZSUN paid him $15,000 and 100,000 shares. It was a great deal for Mr. Hodgson because Asia4sale virtually had no assets.

(8) ZSUN knew that it could not show too much profit from selling DDD, LCAI and TMOT. On March 31, 1999, it acquired Online Investors Advantage, a day trading seminar firm from Scott Elder, Ross Jardine et al. ZSUN paid them $400,000 cash, 1,000,000 free shares, 5,000,000 escrow shares plus two shares for every dollar of EBITDA from OIA. According to 10sb version 7 issued on May 11, 2000, ZSUN paid them additional $6,000,000 and 9,820,152 shares. In summary, Scott Elder et al received $6,400,000 and 10,820,152 ZSUN shares for the whole deal. At the time of acquisition, OIA had net assets of $ 148,543. They have taken back more than the net profits they contributed to ZSUN in 1999. ZSUN booked the excessive payment as good (garbage)-will and additional paid-in capital to dress-up its balance sheet. Too bad, the suckers could not understand. Moreover, ZSUN paid 150,000 shares to Gloabl Direct Marketing in December 1998 as a compensation for finding OIA.

(9)ZSUN issued multiple press releases about their record earnings of every quarter in 1999 as well as the first quarter of 2000. According to 10sb version 7, ZSUN reported net income of $5.9 million in 1999 and diluted EPS of $.23. The denominator in EPS calculation did not include the additional 9 million shares issued to Scott Elder et al in May 2000. It only used 25,796,000 shares. The actual outstanding shares is over 32 million shares now. The net income of 1999 was mainly from the short-term capital gain of selling Asia4sale of $5 million, OIA's operating income of $6 million, realized gain on marketable securities of $470,185, unrealized gain on marketable securities of $111,749. ZSUN has never disclosed the loss from Internet businesses in its press releases. The suckers can never understand.

(10) ZSUN sold 70% of ownership in Asia4sale.com Ltd. to a group of Taiwanese suckers for $5,000,000. A subsidiary virtually has no assets but some cheap computer equipment. ZSUN needs the money to pay Scott Elder and Ross Jardine et al. Asia4sale.com Ltd. then reversely merged with Asia4sale.com Inc. ZSUN received 2.7 million garbage shares from AFSI. The Taiwanese suckers received 6.3 million garbage shares. God knows who kept the last one million shares of AFSI. ZSUN later paid 800,000 shares of AFSI to its shareholders. Therefore, it could adopt the cost method instead of equity method of accounting. The loss of AFSI will be out of the picture. ZSUN can then use the artificially high market price to value their investment in ANSI. It will create unrealized gain on marketable securities. AFSI had a sale of $70,024 and a loss of $5,006,986 in 1999, a sale of $60,446 and a loss of $138,702 for the first quarter of 2000. However, it had a ludicrous market cap of $120 million. Because AFSI had no cash, it issued 800,000 additional shares to unknown investors at a wholesale price of $2.50 per share. The suckers then paid $8 to $11 at retail price in the open market. AFSI is extremely thinly traded. So far in July, 2000 it only traded for two days with the volume of 2,200 shares. In June 2000, it traded for 13 days with the volume of 46,300 shares. In May 2000, it traded for two days with the volume of 9,500 shares. In April 2000, it had no trades.

(11) ZSUN targeted its customers to Chinese but all its web sites are in English. Only the elite group like Frank Ching can read. MSN, YHOO, China.com and thousands of Chinese and Taiwanese e-commerce all programmed their web sites in Chinese. ZSUN cannot compete at all.

(12) ZSUN kept portraying itself as a profitable Internet holding company. However, 85% to 90% of its revenues and 100% of earnings are from high-priced day trading seminar subsidiary, OIA. All the Internet subsidiaries are losing money. ZSUN made money from OIA day trading seminars and selling and holding of TMOT, DDD, LCAI, HRCT, XNET class of yo-yo stocks.

(13) The price of TMOT, DDD and LCAI are continuously falling. The bubbles have bursted.

(14) In 1999 ZSUN invested a basket of listed stocks by using the profits from selling TMOT, DDD, LCAI. 1999 was a very good year but ZSUN's performance was very miserable. If ZSUN had invested in a money market mutual fund, if would have doubled its return. If the teachers are so lousy, how much can a student learn from them? Besides, the day trading seminar will cost one at least $2,995 a piece.

(15) Tigertooth.com has been under construction for good.

(16) ZSUN newly acquired subsidiaries, Asia Prepress and Asia Internet Services, add no value to ZSUN but cost ZSUN $300,000, 250,000 shares, $159,229 debt. Because they are also located in Subic Bay and Clark, Philippines, the same location that Momentum Asia situated, I wonder whether these two companies are simply piggybacking on Momentum Asia.

(17) ZSUN or ZSUN's related parties hired professional touts to masquerade as unbiased analysts. On November 19, 1999, Ray Dirks' Security Capital Trading issued a strong-buy recommendation with a near-term price target over $15 per share with long-term $30 price target. On December 10, 1999, Access 1 Financial issued a buy recommendation with $36 12-month price target. On April 20, 2000, Stockreporter.com issued a strong buy recommendation with 2000 target price of $28.50. On June 14, 2000, Dirks & Company issued a strong buy recommendation with 6-9 months price target of $30 per share and 12-18 months price target of $60 per share. However, the insiders rushed to the exit door when ZSUN stock started to set 52-week low. David McCoy tried to sell 25,000 shares on April 20, 2000. Serge Rudiger tried to sell 30,000 shares on May 8, 2000. Mark Lindholm tried to unload 30,000 on May 10, 2000. Anthony Tobin tried to liquidate 100,000 shares on June 8, 2000. Pedro Azeudo Rua is trying to sell 1,000 shares on July 31, 2000. If ZSUN stock is going to be $60 per share, why would the insiders try to sell the stock at or near 52-week low price? I understand that the paid touts are protected under First Amendment. However, they must disclose the amount of compensation according to Securities Law. I have not been able to find a paragraph in ZSUN's official press releases that indicated the compensation. IMO, ZSUN and its paid touts might have violated Section 17 (b) of Securities Act of 1933. After their recommendations, the price of ZSUN plummeted. It is now trading around $4.

(18)OIA's revenues in the second quarter of 2000 declined from the first quarter of 2000. There is no more sequential growth. In addition, the goodwill amortization from the acquisition of OIA will reduce EPS further. I believe that ZSUN alleviates the problem with the the unrealized gain from AFSI.

All the information are from ZSUN's SEC filings and ZSUN's official press releases.

ragingbull.altavista.com



To: Frank_Ching who wrote (8964)7/27/2000 3:17:35 PM
From: Sir Auric Goldfinger  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 10354
 
D.H. Blair/Former Execs -4: Investment Bank Is Separate
7/27/0 15:14 (New York)Besides the top officials, 10 Blair brokers have been charged in the case:
Robin Breitner, Alex Dewar, John DiBella, Steven Frantz, Richard Gaydos,
Raymond Hernandez, Richard Molinsky, Darren Orlando, Andrew Schandler and
Richard Smith.
Authorities said many of the brokers made multimillion-dollar salaries
while
employed at Blair. Palagonia was the highest-earning salesman, reportedly
generating as much as $13 million in gross commission in one year.
All of the defendants have been charged with enterprise corruption, which
is
punishable by up to 25 years in prison.
Blair and its former employees are charged with manipulating stock prices -
including securities being offered in IPOs - for the benefit of the firm,
certain favored customers, brokers and others associated with Blair.
Among the IPOs that Blair fraudulently sold were Amerigon Inc. (ARGN),
Telepad Corp., Premier Laser Systems Inc., Interactive Flight Technologies
Inc., Sepragen Corp. (SPGNA), Food Court Entertainment Network Inc., Titan
Pharmaceuticals Inc. (TTP), Digital Video Systems Inc. (DVIDE), Conversion
Technologies International Inc. and Advanced Aerodynamics & Structures Inc.
(AASI), according to the indictment.
Blair's retail-brokerage unit and investment-banking operations separated
in
1992. The investment-banking unit, which continues to be run under the name
D.H. Blair Investment Banking Corp., is not under investigation, authorities
said.
In a statement, D.H. Blair Investment Banking said it is "in no way
involved
in the action brought by the DA" and stressed that it has been "an entirely
separate company" from D.H. Blair & Co. for the past eight years.



To: Frank_Ching who wrote (8964)7/27/2000 7:58:41 PM
From: StockDung  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10354
 
"You must have a difficulty to understand the word "fundamentals." All you have shown are the propaganda machine provided by ZSUN. One measures the fundamentals based on the financial strength, growth prospect and industry sentiment. ZSUN had zap."

By: frisky $$$
Reply To: 24374 by Frank_Ching $$$ Thursday, 27 Jul 2000 at 7:12 PM EDT
Post # of 24418


You must have a difficulty to understand the word "fundamentals." All you have shown are the propaganda machine provided by ZSUN. One measures the fundamentals based on the financial strength, growth prospect and industry sentiment. ZSUN had zap.

ZSUN’s financial statements content nothing but many garbage items. Let me analyze the unaudited financial statements of the first quarter 2000 released by ZSUN. (1) Cash: The cash of $15.7 million includes the payoff to Scott Elder et al. for $6 million. The net available cash is only $9.7 million. (2)The goodwill of $116.2 million is nothing but a garbage item. It represents the overpayment or giving free shares to OIA, Vulcan Consultants, Momentum Asia, Global Marketing Direct. The beneficiaries are all the inner circle of ZSUN. The gullible longs suffer. (3) Equity Investment of $241,856 has zero value because BVEVX has been out of business. If we exclude these three items, the total assets are only $14,412,789. (4) Let’s deduct the related party payable from the total liabilities. The net liabilities are $6,016,816. Therefore the real shareholders’ equity is only $8,395,973. ZSUN had 32,153,670 shares outstanding. The total market cap is $128,614,680. Why would any idiots pay $120,000,000 premium for a de facto day trading seminar company? We know the share prices of LCAI and DDD have been plummeted. The net equity would be even less.

ZSUN is losing a great deal of money in its Internet subsidiaries. The sector now is in disarray. Even the suckers are not willing to risk their money in the obscure Internet operations.

ZSUN is also losing money in its marketable securities like DDD, LCAI, TMOT. Even the listed stocks such as BAMM, CPQ, LU. EGRP, DELL, MSFT, T, UAL, AOL are doing very poorly. Do not brag about AFSI. The float of this trashy stock is so tightly controlled. The stock has no liquidity. I don't think that AFSI can be a going-concern entity, if it keeps losing huge money. You cannot run a company by simply issuing new shares. IMO, A year from today, AFSI will be in pennies.

The insiders are rushing out. This is not a very good sign for ZSUN either. This is why I believe that ZSUN is not worth more than $1.

ragingbull.altavista.com



To: Frank_Ching who wrote (8964)7/29/2000 8:59:29 PM
From: Phil(bullrider)  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 10354
 
Frank,

I took the liberty of editing your post and inserting some reality.

Hope you approve:

Is the "hyping" of a stock an essential part of the online investment landscape? Our Constitution guarantees us free speech and we have always valued the lessons gleaned from dissent. When does dissent cross over that imaginary line and become "hyping"?

Too often we find well grounded enthusiasm capriciously labeled as "hyping" by over zealous investors bent on ruining a stocks reputation at any cost.

The "Hyping" that is addressed on this site is quite different from enthusiasm. The Anatomy of a Hypster strives to look at the calculated level of confidence in a given stock. Enthusiasm by means that are, in every sense, void of truth, hinged on deception and innuendo, and motivated by greed at the expense of others. This compendium is offered to aid in identifying the telltale signs of "Hyping", and hopefully provide a counter balance to this heretofore unchecked manipulation of investors greed for personal gain.

IS IT EASIER TO COAX PEOPLE INTO BUYING THAN IT IS TO SCARE PEOPLE INTO SELLING A STOCK?

I have asked some knowledgeable investors this question and the answer is always: "YES, OF COURSE YES!" After all, most people are optomists. They don't want to believe their pet stock is a dog.

WHO HYPSTERS PREY UPON:

Consider the elderly that are investing for retirement, they find their way to the message boards for verification only to see false posts about "New Contracts" and "To The Moon",
or the head of a "typical growing family",with children to put through college, who is monitoring a message board and reads posts by a "pack of 15 to 20 Hypsters"(probably 5 or 6 under various alias's) posting continuous disinformation... what do you think these new investors will do? Is it safer to buy the stock, or put the money back in the bank than to deal with all this whirl wind of "unsupported" lies? Of course it's safer in the bank, but the lies convince the newbies to part with their hard earned money.

The Internet has lured a whole new class of investor into the market. A new investor is just that - New! This new investor, while learning the basics, is particularly vulnerable to the tactics of professional Hypsters. New investors tend to lurk in the background of message boards, content to form independent opinions based on what they read with their own eyes. Very often, honest,intelligent and cautious people can easily be overcome by a well orchestrated propaganda effort.

You must always remember that there is a lot of money to be made in just the motion of a stock UP or DOWN it doesn't matter! And Hypsters have little money at risk because
most are paid in stock to hype the garbage companies they hype. But they have the edge of greed on thier side while preying on the un-initiated. The average investor does not have the edge of organized intelligence.

Recent revelations have indicated that even Market Makers (those charged with keeping the playing field level) have been involved in stock manipulation by Hyping on a stock message board.

HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THIS IS A REAL THREAT!

Lesson 1:

Remember, HYPSTERS NEVER Hype A GOOD STOCK.
Good companies don't need hypsters.
Check the boards for stocks with no potential. They always have Hypsters. Hypesters only hype stocks that have little hope moving up or have excellent potential to fall in value. Hypsters work to hype the price up to unload their free
position at the expense of others or to help another hypster unload her/his shares.

Lesson 2:

HYPSTERS ALWAYS BRING UP OLD NEWS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD MANY TIMES.

New startup companies always have a few bits of good news. The hypster will post this over and over again.
Unsophisticated hypsters will try to freshen up old news with a new date or by-line in an attempt to fool you.

Lesson 3:

HYPSTERS POST MANY TIMES A DAY.

They try to pump you up. They comment on everything, every other post, and can answer every question. THEY KNOW IT ALL! There is no negative comment they won't attack. They
try to control the board. Interested investors may have to confront the hypsters or they will appear to the newbies as being the people with all the information. This is never
accomplished by posting well researched data on the company, but only half truths and constant lies. Hypsters always try hard not to engage the Intelligent Investors in direct repartee. REMEMBER - INTELLIGENT INVESTORS... ALWAYS ADDRESS THE HYPSTERS ALIAS!

Lesson 4:

HYPSTERS WILL LIE TO YOUR FACE.

Never trust a Hypster. The truth on startup companies is that they make mistakes. What new company hasn't?
The hypster will compare your issue to a another companies,
financials - deals - management, etc., trying to lure you into making an Apples to Oranges comparison. Remember each company is unique and while it is prudent to seek out established indicators, do so with care and don't take someone else's word for it. Strive to come up with at least a "six-pack" of indicators so your vision of the state of a company is not tied to a single barometer. Not doing so is tantamount to going to a Race Track and betting on the "Pretty Brown Horsey".
HYPSTERS WANT TO WHISPER IN YOUR EAR - PLANT A SEED OF HOPE, AND HOPE THAT YOU ARE NOT SAVVY ENOUGH TO RESEARCH THE TRUTH ON YOUR OWN. This is how they achieve their greatest success. HOPE + GREED + LAZINESS = BET THE FARM!
This is your investment... work for it, protect it and don't panic on the words of very shadowy figure that "has your best interest in their heart". Consider that one factor: Someone you have never met, is not a member of your family, is now, out of the goodness of their hearts - GIVING YOU FREE ADVICE(that you didn't ask for). It's a no brainer. They have motives $$$$$$$$$$$$.

Lesson 5:

Hypsters know YOU CAN'T VERIFY THEIR STATEMENTS

That's why they make the vague statements they do. Most of the trash companies they are hyping are OTC:BB companies that don't have to file audited reports. They rely on you being too lazy to research their droppings other than to scan the board for others opinions. This is particularly dangerous when you consider that hypsters work in packs and often validate and back up each others nonsense with what appears to be "innocuous and unsolicited" verification by comrade hypsters. Let's face it, we are all conditioned to "believe" everything we see in writing. If others by virtue of their "posts" also confirm this belief, then we are subconsciously doomed to swallow the hook, line and sinker...

Hypster - 1 Honest Investor - 0

Lesson 6:

The Hypsters PLAY ON YOUR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE.

They can lie about information and you won't know the difference (unless you have done your own DD on the company and know the truth and facts).

Lesson 7:

Hypsters play on your lack of patience. You have held a stock for a while. You hope it will be a big stock someday, but the HYPSTER CAN GET TO YOU ADD TO YOUR POSITION BECAUSE YOU ARE ASSURED THAT "THIS WILL GO TO THE MOON ANY DAY NOW". That's when the Hypster is best. You are tired. You have forgotten the goal for the stock was to sell it in one week. The hypster is bothersome, so you buy more it on a good day. Some others also jump. Then you gain confidence and return to let everyone know how glad you are. Then you turn into a semi-Hypster as well. THE HYPSTER HAS WON,AND GAINED A NEW ALLY - YOU!

Lesson 8:

PUMP THE PRICE UP.

That is the Hypster's job. The truth is not important. Lies are the norm. Post continuously on the board every day. They are trying to lure the newbies that are just investigating a stock. They are trying to wear down the faithful interested investors on the board and attempt to gain free reign and control.

A HYPSTER HANDBOOK:
Do not underestimate a Hypsters influence on a stock. The Pro's are good at what they do and what they do is profit from your losses. Below is their "hand-book" so to speak. Learn from it or you will be donating your hard earned money to them!

Rules for Successful Hyping -

1. Be anonymous
2. Use 10% fact. 90% suggestion. The facts will lend credibility to your suggestions.
3. Let others help you learn about the stock. Build rapport and a support base before initiating your hyping routine.
4. Enter w/ humor and reply to all who reply to you.
5. Use multiple ISP's, handles and aliases.
6. Use two (2) or more aliases to simulate a discussion.
7. Do not start with an all out skam of the stock. Build softly.
8. Identify your foes (interested investors) and the boards "guru" Use them to your advantage. Lead them do not follow their lead.
9. Only Hype until the tide/momentum turns. Let doubt carry it the rest of the way.
10. Give the appearance of being open minded.
11. Be bold in your statements. People follow strength.
12. Write headlines in caps with catchy statements.
13. Pour it on as your position gains momentum. Not your personality.
14. Don't worry about being labeled a "Hypster". Newbies won't know your history.
15. When identified put up a brief fight, then back off. Return in an hour unless your foe is weak in reasoning powers.
16. Your goal is to maximise the momentum of the run, and to take the company and the Hypsters to the stars; be arrogant and consistent.
17. Pump the dreams of profits, the company and the stock.
18. Attempt to subdue questions tthat create critical thinking. Statements to reinforce facts.
19. ALWAYS LIE, NAME CALL or USE PROFANITY.
20. Encourage people to call the company. 99% won't. They'll take your word for claims made. If they do call you can always find something that is accurate in how they report their findings.
21. Encourage people to believe Press Releases. Encourage them to call the company. They won't out of laziness. Even if they do, most officers of OTC:BB companies won't tell the truth, because they don't have to.
22. If the companies history/PR's are positive constantly point to that. Compile a list of this data prior to beginning your efforts.
23. If the price rises attribute it to the PR, temporary mass reaction, the market, etc. Even the stock itself.
24. If other posters share your joy, play on that and share theirs too.
25. Always discount low volume, even when it is.
26. Three or four aliases can dominate a board and wear down the interested investors.
27. Bait the Interested Investors into personal debates putting their focus/efforts on them personally and not the stock or facts. Divert their attention from facts.
28. Never promote other stocks that would-be investors can turn to instead of the one your Hyping.
30. Do not fall for challenges on the "values" of what you are doing, it's a game and you are playing it with your own rules.

Your are a:

Grade "A" Hypster: If you post lots of old news, respond to all negative posts with a positive side. Never respond to being called a Hypster, never post on another board with same alias. Can spend up to 80 hours a week hyping a stock.

Grade "B" Hypster: Very good way with words, always claims to be your "friend" taking the interested poster into confidence, never posts on another board, spends about 60 hours a week.

Grade "C" Hypster: Spends less time than the others but is somewhat effective and gets a C grade due to getting excited when Hypsters rules say to get excited, spends about 40 hours a week.

Grade "D" Hypster: Needs to learn the basics about being convincing when making a positive statement. Spends a good amount of time working the stock, maybe 20 hours a week.

Grade "F" Hypster: A complete idiot, most readers are not convinced he knows anything about stocks in general. The type that says a stock "rules", but gives no rationale, shows up every so often but no regular schedule. Also, ends posts with "GO XXXX, GO"

LEARN ABOUT HOW HYPSTERS WORK: For instance: did you know
that some hypsters are paid?

Golden Rule

IGNORE THEM FOLKS...learn how professional hypsters are paid: When you REPLY to hypsters you give them an opportunity to earn appox. 5-7 dollars. The service agreement they enter into with their employer states their messages will be monitored for content, profanity, lies, etc. but Overseers and the like don't have the time to check all their hypsters messages. Only occasional spot checks are done. Those who manage the hypster will generally read the headlines to see if a hypster is replying to other posters by name. That tells them the hypster isn't just "posting blindly" or repeating the same message over and over since they won't pay for those.(True to form a hypester will put the bite on anyone, even their unscrupulous employer).
A hypster will attempt to milk three to five replies per post at one to two dollars each. This way the hypster spreads positive influence to as many stockholders as possible. A hypster will create this discussion thread because it takes less time reading more messages than is necessary. This ultimately allows the hypster more time to post and make money. In general,

ALWAYS ENGAGE A HYPSTER. Make them read all the posts and think up ways to enter the discussion.

ALWAYS ENGAGE A HYPSTER; when you do so then YOU BECOME THE
HYPSTER'S ENEMY! When you feel compelled to challenge a hypster never mention his/her true alias in your response. This will make it hard for the hypster to use your post as a revenue stream. Read the news ,do your own homework and make your own decisions. Get real time quotes and follow the stock for a couple of weeks. Due Diligence is key here.Know that there will be a time when the stock increases which will be followed by the hypsters and those that think they "missed the boat". The Interested Investors will question the stock by saying such things as "it could be a Pump and Dump" , or "the company could be lying and deceiving". The goal is to snag newbies and potential new investors by "dumping" their shares on you.

Take the time to confirm your DD ,trust your own judgement and believe in yourself. Pick your point of return, or gain, and live with it. Don't listen to hype, but to interested investors. Trust your own judgement. Live by the rules you have created .

HOW TO IDENTIFY A HYPSTER

1. Check the "Born on Date" hypsters create identities on a regular basis. Rarely do you find a hypster with older "Created On" date. So click on the Identity icon for more
details.

2. Take the time to look at the hypster's history of Posts. Go to other boards and see if their is a pattern to the theme of the posts. hypsters rarely waste time trying to blend in with "interested investor" posts, unless they are cultivating a new uninformed assistant.

3. When did the hypster show up. Hypsters rarely show up when activity is in at a Lull. They show up when activity up/down.

4. Hypsters never answer direct questions except with another question.

5. Hypsters do work in teams (sometimes themselves as a team). So be suspicious of someone showing up and automatically having a Shadow to converse with who supports their argument.

6. Hypsters always select "an argument" that can never be resolved by research.

Helpful Links

insidertrader.com

edgar.sec.gov

nasdr.com

edgar.sec.gov
marketspirit.com

scambusters.com

Have fun,
Phil