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To: richard surckla who wrote (48775)	8/2/2000 6:53:23 PM
From: George the Greek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93625

"Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive." Hey! That's Sir Walter Scott. Did you give credit? :-) While we're at it: "The web of our life is of a mingled yarn, good and ill together." - William Shakespeare ("All's Well That Ends Well")

To: richard surckla who wrote (48775)	8/2/2000 6:54:56 PM
From: jim kelley	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 93625

Re: The DDR Platform scam There is no end in sight to their attempts to deceive the public regarding DDR platforms.

To: richard surckla who wrote (48775)	8/2/2000 8:08:59 PM
From: Jdaasoc	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93625

rich: ALI said they were only sampling at this time and didn't expect to go into production until sometime in Q4. IWill says, they will need at least 3 months minimum after ALI's final revision Intel invested hundreds of millions of dollars in developing RDRAM with 820 and 840 chipsets only to find out that performance benefits can only be found under certain heavy load multitasking situations. Do you honestly think AMD, ALI and Iwill have pockets as deep to pull off DDR sucessfully. My opinion is Yes and No. Either the product will be sold as a cheap as SDRAM solution and it will be as flaky as a lot eariler AMD K6 based motherboards with quirky Tawainewse chipsets that made many people swear off AMD CPU's. Or the costs of working out the bugs of DDR circuitry makes it a pricey boutique solution like 820 chipset with RDRAM is now. In that case, DDR better kick RDRAM's butt performance wise if it costs about the same. john

To: richard surckla who wrote (48775)	8/2/2000 8:37:29 PM
From: Bilow	Respond to of 93625

Hi richard suckla; I don't doubt that the ALi DDR motherboard that was a nonworking mockup at Computex2000 in early June is the same design that ALi announced on August 26. When companies get new designs it is traditional to stuff one and give it marketing. They are used for photographs and to show to customers that they are serious about getting the technology out the door. I recall that the story on the Computex machine was that ALi had not yet delivered the chipset. So the ALi chip was non functional, but otherwise the board was complete. What a technician will do is tape the fake chip down and lend the board to marketing. When ALi ships a real chip, the fake is replaced. Nothing unusual, just the natural progression from design to production. Look for the ALi boards before the end of the year, but it really doesn't matter much if they miss. DDR is now inevitable. -- Carl