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To: Frederick Smart who wrote (84636)	8/2/2000 9:14:08 PM
From: James R. Barrett	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

You are a strange dude. You "love" everybody except your parents. Is it because they are "normal"?

To: Frederick Smart who wrote (84636)	8/2/2000 9:24:59 PM
From: James R. Barrett	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

"The purest symbol of service was that of Jesus washing the feet of his disciples." Does he do pedicures too?

To: Frederick Smart who wrote (84636)	8/3/2000 3:44:46 PM
From: jbe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

FS, I guess you answered my question, indirectly. In your lengthy bio, there is no mention of having been through a war. jbe

To: Frederick Smart who wrote (84636)	8/3/2000 7:37:32 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

LOL, really. Do you really think that holding jobs and excellence at schoolboy games are determinants of a sheltered life? Of course, as I mentioned, I am using a different standard. I suggest that you spend an extended period of time in someplace like Chechnya or Mindanao. Learn the language, examine and experience the nature of life as it really is. You might come back with some conceit washed out of you, and some of that pompous and self-satisfied smugness. You might even feel less convinced of your answers, and less inclined to preach. A hint: do not presume to lecture the locals. "Service" - a definition. Actions which place the giver in a completely humble - lesser - position at risk of loss/humiliation as one reaches out to lift up and help one's fellow man without the expection of receiving anything in return including private or public praise. The purest symbol of service was that of Jesus washing the feet of his disciples. How perfectly bizarre. Washing someone's feet is not service, unless that person has very dirty feet and is incapable of washing them (in which case there would probably be other services more necessary and relevant). Self-abasement has nothing to do with service. I find it very revealing that you define "service" chiefly in terms of the person doing the service: "Actions which place the giver in a completely humble - lesser - position at risk of loss/humiliation... without the expection of receiving anything in return including private or public praise. The important part, lift up and help one's fellow man receives rather secondary attention. My own feeling is that this type of "service" serves the ego of the "server" more than anything else. How does foot-washing help and uplift anyone? I asked for a specific, practical, definition. You speak a great deal about your life of service. Whom do you serve, and how does your service help and uplift them? I do hope you don't classify your preaching as "service". While you clearly enjoy it, many others find it more excruciating than uplifting.