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To: semiconeng who wrote (106939)	8/3/2000 7:13:32 PM
From: Elmer	Respond to of 186894

Semiconeng - great job of sniffing that out! EP

To: semiconeng who wrote (106939)	8/3/2000 7:58:27 PM
From: Cirruslvr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Semiconeng - RE: "So, your contention that Prime95 was "a simple benchmark", got me to wondering.... I mean, I've never heard of this "simple benchmark" before Kyle mentioned it. Have you? Well thanks to goggle.com, it was a simple matter to discover that Prime95 is not a "benchmark" at all, it's a prime number search software, and is anything but simple:" This program is used by Kyle Bennet at that website as a CPU stress test to see if the CPU can handle a very intensive program. I don't know who called this a "simple benchmark" because the Kyle uses it to make a processor run at its peak. The point being made is that a PRODUCTION 1.13GHz PIII processor crashed when this program ran. If this PRODUCTION 1.13GHz PIII failed the test, what does this say about other PRODUCTION 1.13GHz processors? According to a previous review, Kyle says he runs the "torture test" so I bet he did the same with the 1.13GHz PIII. hardocp.com You just posted this software has had updates because of errors. According to that text file, the torture test has had only one problem/fix. I have downloaded this program, and am currently running the torture test. No crashes so far. I'll let it run overnight in the background to see if my system can handle it. Why don't you run it also? Here is the direct link to the program if you're using Windows 95/98/NT/2000 - ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/p95setup.exe Let us know if it crashes on you.

To: semiconeng who wrote (106939)	8/3/2000 8:09:30 PM
From: pgerassi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Dear Semiconeng: Then why did it work just fine at 850 on same CPU same motherboards? Thus, it is not a software problem. If it was a speed problem with the software, then 1150 MHz Tbird would have been unstable. Thus, since the motherboards were different, it points positively to the CPU in question. Kyle did go through the simple troubleshooting procedure. Pete

To: semiconeng who wrote (106939)	8/3/2000 8:14:25 PM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 186894

semiconeng - Re: "To: pgerassi who wrote (106920) From: semiconeng Thursday, Aug 3, 2000 7:03 PM ET Reply # of 106954 When using this specially prepared motherboard, a simple benchmark, Prime95, crashes the system in less than 1 minute of operation. So, your contention that Prime95 was "a simple benchmark", got me to wondering.... I mean, I've never heard of this "simple benchmark" before Kyle mentioned it. Have you? Well thanks to goggle.com, it was a simple matter to discover that Prime95 is not a "benchmark" at all, it's a prime number search software, and is anything but simple: mersenne.org mersenne.org mersenne.org Also, I did find something very interesting. I wonder if Kyle has the latest Version 20.6? If not........ mersenne.org "New features in Version 20.6 of prime95.exe ------------------------------------------- 1) A crash bug was fixed. If you did P-1 factoring followed by trial factoring, then if you found a factor unallocated memory was accessed usually resulting in a crash. New features in Version 20.2 of prime95.exe ------------------------------------------- 1) If P-1 stage 1 completed and there was not enough memory to start stage 2 immediately, then an incorrect save file was generated. This bug was introduced in version 20.1. Upon restart of the P-1 factoring job a crash or other unpredictable behavior was possible. This bug was fixed and this version has special code to properly read these incorrect save files. Gee, I guess this piece of "Freeware", may not be so "simple" after all. Amazing what you find when you look. Isn't it?" {===================================} That was a nice piece of investigative work !!! I eagerly await all the responses ! Paul