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To: Raymond who wrote (6884)	8/5/2000 7:43:12 AM
From: foundation	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

"Japan Telecom and Docomo will go in (wCDMA) service in 2001." Yes, with SpinCo's assistance. ---------- "A lot of europeans will go in (wCDMA) service the first half of 2002." Only in the wettest of dreams. ---------- Want to lay Multi-carrier on GSM MAP? Easy as pie. 208.45.131.70

To: Raymond who wrote (6884)	8/5/2000 11:32:11 AM
From: Allen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

Can you all QCOM:ers try to get this in your heads now. It's frightening to see the number of people who seem to make investment decisions based on technology and without understanding that technology. So the SGSN,GGSN:s,MSC,HLR and the rest of the node will not be replaced when starting the WCDMA system. To be more specific, of the dozen or so nodes in a wireless network, only the SGSN and GGSN are specific to data and only the MSC is specific to circuit voice. Or maybe the PDSN, the CDMA equivalent of the SGSN/GGSN, will make IS-95 networks obsolete. I haven't seen the W-CDMA standards but it's my understanding that they are taking into account VoIP and the QoS issues. I have seen the CDMA-2000 standards and they all seem to assume that voice will always be circuit switched and/or separate from data. Considering the rest of the network (backbone and land-line) is, for better or worse, moving to VoIP, is a little disconcerting to see little more than cursory consideration of this in the CDMA-2000 standards.

To: Raymond who wrote (6884)	8/5/2000 7:21:31 PM
From: mightylakers	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

Raymond. Can you all QCOM:ers try to get this in your heads now Absolutely NO. We don't want misinformation. The same core network nodes which are used for GSM will be used forWCDMA. Absolutely false statement. WCDMA has its own data capability through its own base station. It doesn't need any help(distraction) from GPRS networks. Repeat with me Raymond, WCDMA will do IP directly, it doesn't need a detour. In the mean time it is true that WCDMA will utilize the existing GSM land side networks for voice service. So the SGSN,GGSN:s,MSC,HLR and the rest of the node will not be replaced I never said they will be replaced, they are just useless to the WCDMA mode(I'm talking about SGSM and GGSN). I think one of the most spreaded misinfo is that the so-called GSM/GPRS/EDGE/WCDMA upgrade path is a natural upgrade path. It is NOT. Especially on the packet data side. GPRS and EDGE are just an effort in adding data capability on to GSM networks before WCDMA is available. Another thing Japan Telecom and Docomo will go in service in 2001.A lot of europeans Thanks for reminding, tell me how that network gonna route its data via your SGSN, GPRS networks then connect to Internet via GGSN. A lot of europeans will go in service the first half of 2002. I will burst into tears with happiness if that can be done.