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To: Neocon who wrote (85076)8/8/2000 7:57:34 PM
From: Krowbar  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
<< Sure it did: Laos and Cambodia went Communist, and Vietnam became the hegemonic power in the region. The fact that it stopped at Thailand only shows the exhaustion produced by years of war....... >>

And how did that affect the rest of the world? Was it worth the 50+ thousand American lives. What exhaustion? It probably would have gone on for another 20 years.

How much different would the outcome have been if we withdrew 2 years earlier, or 3 or 4, or if we never got involved? If anything, we probably just delayed Viet Nam's experiment with communism. The point is that we were there to placate right wing gung-ho radicals. It's too bad that they get to conscript young men to do die in order to advance their agenda.

Del



To: Neocon who wrote (85076)8/9/2000 2:34:42 AM
From: Dayuhan  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
Vietnam became the hegemonic power in the region. The fact that it stopped at Thailand only shows the exhaustion produced by years of war.......

Cambodia and Laos did not fall because of anything Vietnam did: if anything, the fall of Cambodia was a consequence of our intervention there, and our installation of the preposterous Lon Nol. There is of course no way of knowing what would have happened if we had let Sihanouk remain, but it could hardly have been worse. The failure of Thailand to "fall" as predicted had nothing at all to do with the exhaustion of war. It had a great deal to do with the fact that Thailand was never anybody's colony. The post-colonial strains that the Communists exploited effectively in Indochina did not exist in Thailand. There is nothing we could have done to prevent the Communists from taking power in Vietnam; they earned the mandate and the right to rule by providing the only effective opposition to the detested French invaders. We backed the wrong horse, and paid the price.