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To: art slott who wrote (6656)8/11/2000 9:22:59 AM
From: art slott  Respond to of 8220
 
IBM aims to boost Unix server line against Sun
By Stephen Shankland
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
August 10, 2000, 5:30 p.m. PT
IBM's acquisition of Sequent Computer Systems will bear fruit a year from now with the arrival of a new Unix server code-named Regatta that will incorporate as many as 32 CPUs.

The new server will bolster IBM's effort to grab business from Sun Microsystems. Though IBM's Unix server business has been growing--it expanded 30 percent last quarter--Sun's is bigger. Hewlett-Packard, Compaq Computer, SGI and Unisys, too, are striving to capture more of the market to fill the server appetites of big businesses and Internet companies.


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The new design, a highly complex confluence of several hardware and software developments, illustrates both the difficulty of designing high-end systems and the lengths to which computing companies are going to satisfy demand for them.

Regatta will combine several new technology advances, said David Turek, vice president of deep computing and Web servers at IBM. First will be the Power4 chip, which, as reported, joins two CPUs in a single processor package.

Sets of four Power4 chips will be nestled together in eight-CPU packages, Turek said. As many as four of the modules can be joined together in Regatta.

Second will be a high-speed switch used to connect these eight-CPU modules, Turek said. The switch comes from IBM's current RS/6000 SP Unix server design. IBM's newly released SP uses the same "Colony" switch that appears in IBM's ASCI White supercomputer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, but Regatta will use a next-generation switch code-named Federation.

Third will be nonuniform memory architecture (NUMA) technology from Sequent. NUMA is a computer design that spreads memory around in separate chunks near different CPUs. NUMA contrasts with symmetrical multiprocessing (SMP), which uses a single "flat" chunk of memory shared by all the processors.


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IBM's heavy handed approach to their clients. M.D. Wills
Wow - a whole 32 processors...... SolarisMan

That's great but have you seen whats what on the iplant.com page?

Unix flavors are all guilty... Sys Admin

Yeah, but IBM had better fix AIX first .... Bruce Davis

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SMP designs are used in high-end Unix servers from IBM, Sun, Compaq and HP. But designs from SGI, Sequent and EMC's Data General division use NUMA. SMP has survived much longer than many expected it would, but it's still limited by the bottleneck of having numerous CPUs sharing the connection to memory.

One difficulty with NUMA is dealing with memory that is located at different spots around the system, which results in different delays when a CPU is trying to read or write from memory. IBM's new switch means these delays, called latencies, will be measured in mere billionths of a second, as opposed to the millionths of current systems, IBM said.

"We'll be trying to make the NUMAness as invisible as possible," Turek said.

Regatta will use chips with IBM's copper and silicon-on-insulator technology. They'll run faster than 1 GHz and will each have a whopping 170 million transistors.

Sun's new high-end server, code-named Serengeti and due next year, also deviates from the straight SMP approach. At the other extreme, SGI's new 256-processor Origin 3000 is SGI's third-generation NUMA design.

A high-end Regatta server will debut in the fall of 2001, Turek said. A midrange version will arrive in the spring of 2002.

Setting the stage for Regatta will be a new version of IBM's Unix, called AIX. The new version, previously known as Monterey, will officially be released under the name AIX 5L, IBM said.

Monterey used AIX at its core and added contributions from versions of Unix from Sequent and Santa Cruz Operation. Though the alliance initially was portrayed as a marriage of equals, IBM was in fact in the driver's seat, as reflected by the software's ultimate name.

AIX 5L will run both on servers using IBM's Power chips and on Intel's upcoming IA-64 chip family, which launches next year with the arrival of the Itanium chip. Though higher-level software can be written identically for AIX on either chip type, it will have to be "recompiled" to run on the two different chips.

IBM--a company so large it's difficult to count how many operating systems it supports--also is an avid fan of Linux, a relatively young clone of Unix.

IBM believes Linux will become the standard foundation of most programming efforts. SAP, for example, has settled on Linux as the basic operating system for developing its high-end accounting, sales and manufacturing control software, Turek said.

Counter to this assumed ascendency of Linux is IBM's view that Linux isn't as good as AIX or other versions of Unix at high-end tasks such as staying up and running as much as possible or running efficiently on systems with dozens of CPUs.

To accommodate this contrasting popularity but high-end immaturity, IBM AIX 5L will be able to run Linux software that has been recompiled for AIX, Turek said. Doing so will mean Linux software can take advantage of AIX's multiprocessor abilities and other advantages, he said.








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To: art slott who wrote (6656)8/11/2000 11:26:11 AM
From: David W. Taylor  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8220
 
No way, Art!

I'm aware of how diverse IBM's business is but this lack of ThinkPad sales will hurt IBM's results big time.

The crazy part is that they introduced these new A20p's and, while they were still in their first month and largely unavailable, they dropped the prices by $300.

Screwy, if you ask me.



To: art slott who wrote (6656)8/22/2000 8:24:27 PM
From: John Koligman  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8220
 
Looks like the 'gang that could not shoot straight' (the IBM PC division) in fact does have a 'Thinkpad problem' after all. Perhaps Mr. Taylor will end up getting the 'next' model A series machine <ggg>.

John


Laptop bottleneck costs IBM

By Joe Wilcox
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
August 22, 2000, 2:15 p.m. PT


update Parts shortages are still making it difficult for IBM to deliver new ThinkPad notebooks to customers.

As first reported by CNET News.com, the ThinkPad shortages, along with those affecting Netfinity servers, cost IBM about $250 million in sales during the second quarter.

IBM had attributed the problem to a single component unique to ThinkPad and Netfinity motherboards. The problem apparently had to do with production changes made by the component's supplier, creating a shortage of motherboards used in both product lines.

ThinkPad general manager Adalio Sanchez said the one-time problem affecting motherboards and other industry-wide component shortages led to the supply situation.

"Those issues are largely behind us," he said. "The T series is improving, and by the end of August we will be in decent shape. There is some supply of the T20 today."

Sanchez acknowledged that A series models are more constrained, but that is in part "because they have been extremely popular with the university crowd. In fact, yesterday we delivered 3,000 to (the University of North Carolina). Tomorrow we're delivering Wake Forest."

A20 models are expected to remain in short supply "all the way until mid- to late September," he added.
For IBM, the timing is not good, as it comes during one of the busiest selling seasons of the year and at a time the company is struggling to turn around its money-losing PC division. Servers and portables are the division's only two profitable product lines.

Armonk, N.Y.-based IBM has largely resolved the server shortage, with only one model in short supply. But the ThinkPad situation has worsened rather than abated, as the company had promised.

IBM had predicted ThinkPad T20 models would be readily available in late July and A20 notebooks by mid-August. But IBM's Web site today reported only two of about 40 A20 configurations in stock and one out of 15 T20 configurations. Delivery, according to the Web site, is expected "within four weeks."

Sources at a major distributor, who asked not to be identified, confirmed IBM's ongoing ThinkPad shortage.

Out of 106 ThinkPad configurations, 76 are back-ordered. Hewlett-Packard, by contrast, had only 14 out of 109 notebook configurations back-ordered. Compaq Computer offers 68 configurations of Armada notebooks, 18 of which are back-ordered. Toshiba is back-ordered on eight out of 23 configurations.

When viewed another way, the distributor sources said, the shortages are disastrous compared with those of competitors: IBM has about 20 times as many back-ordered units as Compaq and Hewlett-Packard and eight times as many as Toshiba.

ThinkPad T20 models with 700-MHz Pentium III processors are the hardest to find, with many configurations back-ordered 500 units or more.

"Looking at the results...the ThinkPad A20 and T20 have widespread availability problems compared to their competitors. As a result, their market share has been dropping off in the dealer channel," said ARS analyst Matt Sargent.

While the T20 and A20 are two of IBM's newest models and in great demand, other ThinkPads are also in short supply. Both 570 models listed on the company's Web site are out of stock, as are two out of five ThinkPad 240 configurations.

Consumer units available
Fortunately for IBM, consumer models, which typically are big sellers during the lucrative back-to-school buying season, are readily available. Virtually all ThinkPad i Series 1200, 1300 and 1500 configurations are in stock through IBM and dealers.

According to retail sales data from market researcher NPD Intelect, the shortages have cost IBM. In June, in terms of notebook revenue, IBM dropped to 25 percent market share from 30.90 percent a year earlier. Toshiba moved into the top spot with 26 percent share, up from 23.20 percent share a year earlier. Compaq had 23.50 percent market share for June, followed by Sony at 8.60 percent, HP at 7.80 percent and Apple at 5.60 percent.

NPD Intelect culled the data from retail and mail-order outlets and corporate dealers selling to Fortune 500 companies.

"Obviously losing share in a market they want to hold onto, you're losing 5.9 percent year over year; you're clearly being affected," said NPD Intelect analyst George Meier.

With shortages still a problem, IBM's PC division could take yet another revenue hit during a time of badly needed recovery. The division plans to cut $1 billion in costs this year as part of ongoing restructuring and streamlining of operations. During the second quarter, the PC group lost $69 million, down from a loss of $169 million the first quarter.

The shortages are likely to cost IBM some back-to-school and government sales, said Technology Business Research analyst Bob Sutherland. "It is not a good time to be having this kind of problem."

While students could still buy available ThinkPad models or delay their purchases, government agencies face a firm buying deadline. Many agencies go on summer buying sprees as they look to exhaust their budgets before the federal fiscal year closes Sept. 30.

Still, not all the news is bad.

Server shortages, which accounted for the bulk of last quarter's $250 million in lost sales, have lessened substantially, with only one model, the Netfinity M3500, hard to come by. Of seven M3500 configurations listed on IBM's Web site, only one is in stock. However, other Netfinity models, with a few exceptions, appear to be widely available.