To: kash johal who wrote (4676 ) 8/12/2000 12:14:47 AM From: semiconeng Read Replies (2) | Respond to I think you raise a good point. This is all Device Design stuff, I'm Process, so if you say it's equivalent to 3.2GHz 64 bit clocks, I'm willing to take your word for that. Good enough for me. If we assume a hammercore - modified Mustang tops out at 1.2Ghz with AMDs current 0.18 process. In a broad brush look -- with dual CMP that gives us 2.4Ghz 64 bit clocks. Now I have to say that THIS, seems like a BIG assumption, and the width of the "brush stroke" you're painting could cover a football field. I also couldn't help noticing your comparison of Dual CMP Hammer, to single Chip Itanium. Now obviously both CPU's will scale as process/design improves. Maybe I'm not reading this right, but it still seems like you're comparison is based on Dual CMP Hammer and Single Itanium. Am I missing something? However it will be much cheaper. It will also add the legacy s/w support. Kash, cumon. You know just as well as I do, that in the Big Server market that AMD wants for this chip, cost is one of the last considerations. You'd have a point for desktops, but we both know that's not what AMD wants for this chip, don't we? It certainly has potential to be a winner in displacing the current Xeon 2/4/8 CPU space and blowing it out of the water. Let me tell ya something baby, As soon as McKinley shows it's face (right around the time of Hammer intro), XEON is DEAD. Itanium will be the low end server processor, Willamette's second generation will be high end Desktop, and CuMine will replace the then obsolete Celeron. And you know it. I think AMDs plan has some merit. Maybe the plan has some merit. I just think it's going to be too little, too late. I don't think you really believe that bullcrap that Mike Magee is spewing, about SledgeHammer samples, now do you? AMD's own Web Page has them "announcing product" at THE END of 2001: http://www.amd.com/news/prodpr/20145.html And you're right, it's all in the software baby. I could cut and paste all the web links to the announcements about IA-64 support, but I'm sure you've seen plenty. And we both know that Sun isn't about to throw down UltraSparc for no chip, that's more than a year away, don't we?
