To: Don Pueblo who wrote (138 ) 8/14/2000 10:48:25 PM From: Level Head Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 444 I would have to agree with Allen regarding the his medication usage. What you call your soul, is to me a program running on the hardware (loosely) of the brain and associated control elements. The inputs from the outside world, and the outputs and controls to that world are all electro-chemical in nature. Your soul becomes very different indeed when trace elements of certain chemicals, or tiny amounts of voltage, are applied to it. For some, the conditions that their brains are subjected to are outside of normal thresholds, and personality is affected as well as motor/chemical controls. Depending upon the nature and severity of the problem, we consider the person "normal" or "dysfunctional". The point of this thread is to direct attention to areas where the term "dysfunctional" is too broadly applied. I completely agree that this needs fixing. But having said that, I recognize that manic-depression and other actual brain-related problems, with electrochemical bases and demonstrable underlying organic problems, DO exist. While the percentage is small, it's still hundreds of thousands of affected persons. Let's not lump them into an accidental category based on an assumption that "all drugs are bad". Some give life, or extend it, and make a reasonably normal adaptation possible. The distinction between normal and dysfunctional, and the size of the normal "envelope", is not easy to resolve. Allen would, I expect, willingly take even a drug with some risks, as lithium has for example, to solve his problem -- the alternative is unattractive to him and I agree. Be gentle; you do not have his problem, and his problem is real -- not psychosomatic. It is NOT his decision, nor can a decision alone fix it. Level Head