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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Frederick Smart who wrote (85415)	8/15/2000 11:09:19 AM
From: jbe	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 108807

One more view of "Internet Time": fastcompany.com For example. Fred, I think it would help if you were to introduce your remarks with qualifications such as the following: In my opinion/ it seems to me/some people argue -- and I agree -- / perhaps/ possibly/ I like to think that/ etc. etc. Has it occurred to you that one of the reasons folks here tend to react negatively to your messages is that the latter are couched in such absolute, brook-no-contradiction, terms? It's impossible to debate a sermon, after all.

To: Frederick Smart who wrote (85415)	8/15/2000 1:14:37 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Frederick, The internet is only another tool-- one more in the progression of technological achievements that man keeps churning out. It can be used positively or negatively and has no inherent value in and of itself. So we gain knowledge faster, so we can reach farther. If we didn't use our gifts, our lives, positively in our immediate real 3D time, it's doubtful we will use them any better on and through the internet. Time cannot disappear. We live in the moment, one at a time- it is all we have- I don't care how you want to play with the term; it is what it is- one moment- no faster, no slower than any other--ours to live. Technology has changed the duration required for many things to take place (just as the printing press replaced handwritten manuscripts, or the railroads replaced the Pony Express or the phone reduced the need for writing letters or sending messengers), but I'm not at all sure that we have gained-- and suspect we have lost-- quality in both the enjoyment of and reflection about much in our lives. Have you considered that there is as much danger as promise in the internet- How can we, still bound by our own mortal limitations, possibly accommodate not just the overwhelming amount of information, but the necessity of judging that information in terms of reliability, and value, and even morality. Sven Birkerts writes that the price of this expansive lateral access we now have is a sacrificing of depth. We no longer are willing to invest in the slow absorption of an idea- we rush to react, to click on the next site, to get to the next thought. By the time I finish writing this, I daresay there will be several, maybe many more, posts that I will have not yet read, because I took time to try to express clearly why I feel you are making surficial statements without clear support and to wonder why that is exasperating to me. E.g., your statement that "internet time" is when all past guilt, blame and problems disappear into the timeless light of forgiveness, hope and opportunity. These strike me as words without substance- a new age facileness that replaces depth with pretty nothing- I am left with nothing solid after I read these words. Do they teach, offer true solace, provide wisdom or guidance? Next I'll feel frustrated because I haven't read all the posts, worry I might be missing something, but this is exactly the problem: often we rush so to read, to respond, that we lose any chance of quality in our writing. Not just in spelling errors and grammar, which abound here, but in the chance to ruminate on what we read and judge it for its truth and content- its depth. We don't need the internet to touch those around us, for heaven's sake. Can you really believe that you are accomplishing anything here that could in any way compare to what you can do in 3D? All this talk of light and love and conquering time is newagespeak. It strikes me that you spend a great deal more time talking and writing about doing it, whatever it is, than just doing it. .