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To: Ilaine who wrote (11338)8/15/2000 11:46:26 PM
From: pater tenebrarum  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 436258
 
lol...as you know this thread should have been closed long ago...-g- good thing it's doing some good...:)

re. the Arabs, it may be crude, but if one stops to think it through, it does make sense.currently the major mid East oil producers do tend to bow to US pressure out of sheer pragmatism. this type of arrangement could be seriously in jeopardy when the US veep in the form of Lieberman gets to be president one day. it won't matter on Jewish holidays as he's bound to sit at home twiddling thumbs and saving on his electricity bill, and thus can't offend. but any political pressure regarding oil prices delivered by him or a govt. under him on other days of the week would by political necessity have to be resisted by Muslim Arab states, unless they want to risk getting unpopular at home. in spite of the period of detente with Israel that has been the feature of Arab-Israeli relations in recent years, the animosities still run deep. the Palestinian problem could yet blossom into major trouble for the region...it seems to me that the Jerusalem question is a stumbling block that is almost impossible to overcome.
would an Arab oil producer really want to have to deal with a US veep who's - rightly or wrongly - deemed to be even more of an ally of the hereditary enemy than any other incarnation of US govt.? furthermore let's not forget that Bush as an oil man and as his father's son is probably held in high regard. the Saudis and Kuwaitis as well as other assorted little sheikhdoms sitting on huge oil reserves sure were happy with Shrubbery senior.
reputedly no-one in US politics has connections in the mid-East that rival Papa Shrubbery's. conceivably that alone could suffice to convince the sheikhs to do something to tilt thing's in his son's favor.



To: Ilaine who wrote (11338)8/16/2000 2:12:10 AM
From: KeepItSimple  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 436258
 
>BTW, your command of English idiomatic speech is impressive.

FAR too impressive. I majored in linguistics and electrical engineering (go figure) and I can guarantee you that Heinz is either a 60 year old man who's spent the last 40 years at a british or US university, or he's a native english fellow using a false name.

There's not a single idiom that gets by that guy, nor any reference too obscure.

I often wonder who the people behind the handles on these threads are. Most are loons, no doubt, but some are probably high profile individuals that we'd know by name.