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To: Claude who wrote (30135)	8/19/2000 12:01:15 AM
From: Thomas Mercer-Hursh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 54805

What does Corba have to do with SUN? Basically SUN has embraced and extended Corba. The two will coexist but SUN has delivered what the industry wanted - standard platform for Internet distributed development with a solid set of APIs, great language and all OO. Its more than Corba but Corba fits in well. RMI and Corba are being 'harmonized'. I am clear on the words, but fuzzy on the reference context. What, outside of the Forte tools, has Sun done with CORBA? The J2EE standard is definitely NOT open source and SUN charges 2-3% royalties on all sales of products that wish to use the J2EE compliant logo. OK, that's money, but I am having trouble seeing it move SUNs bottom line to a substantial degree. This is what caused friction betwen IBM and SUN as IBM developed much of J2EE yet must also pay to use the logo. ??? If IBM had developed much of it, wouldn't this imply that they should have a toolset that embodies most of J2EE ... and yet the only one I know of that does is FJEE. For that matter, J2EE is little more or less than what Forte had already shown was the necessary toolset for doing scalable, distributed, enterprise-class applications.