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To: Thomas Mercer-Hursh who wrote (30137)	8/19/2000 10:46:50 AM
From: Claude	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 54805

"I am clear on the words, but fuzzy on the reference context. What, outside of the Forte tools, has Sun done with CORBA?" There are standards bodies working together to bring SUN's RMI standard and CORBA's latest standard into alignment. You can bet that SUN's RMI and J2EE standards have had a lot of impact on the Corba standard - for example in speeding up new features such as pass by value (where objects can be passed in their entirety). J2EE supports both CORBA and RMI. "??? If IBM had developed much of it, wouldn't this imply that they should have a toolset that embodies most of J2EE ... and yet the only one I know of that does is FJEE. For that matter, J2EE is little more or less than what Forte had already shown was the necessary toolset for doing scalable, distributed, enterprise-class applications." The word develop may be confusing here as we are talking standards that leave the implementation to the vendors. I'm not talking about developing code but the standards. IBM participated heavily in the Java standards bodies and is responsible for much of what's in the APIs. In any case, IBM spent mucho bucks on developpment of Java standards as they hoped it would become open which SUN has now refused to do. As for who has J2EE compliant servers - roughly 20 companies. Sun's value chain here is growing rapidly. Check out their web site. Claude (rhymes with TOAD)