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Gold/Mining/Energy : Canadian Oil & Gas Companies -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: koan who wrote (7481)8/21/2000 6:54:39 PM
From: Richard Saunders  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 24939
 
koan - I think Cam's pulling your leg, t'aint no expert. There are many others on the thread who are more qualified, especially when it comes to trying to picking winners.

You're a 20 yr. stock mining co. player so you already know quite a bit about oil & gas, especially small Alta. companies.

Interesting though that you've come over to the oil thread, maybe that means that others will be thinking along the same lines. Welcome at any rate.

You're asking advice, remember what you've paid.....

1. Buy low, sell higher. Sell high, buy lower.

2. O&G is cyclical. Buy with the intent of selling, sell with the intent of buying.

3. Oil prices are hard (impossible?) to forecast. OPEC and perceptions can swing the price on a dime. Volatility is the word.

4. Natural gas prices are impacted by demand. Demand is often determined by weather events.

5. Remember the food chain. The large caps. usually start it off and then if there's rotation the intermediates and juniors eventually pick up some interest. Juniors and very small producers are laggards and very often extremely illiquid.

6. Fundamental info. re: sector. See #reply-3224395 Canadian Handbook of Security Analysis.

7. O&G production eats capital, is risky and is involved with declining assets. Small companies may be more nimble with decision-making when compared to larger cos. however larger cos. can often ride longer through the trough part of the cycle.

8. Declining assets. Reserves and some previous discussion. See #reply-8529023

9. People parts. One of the hardest to quantify however probably the most critical especially when it comes to small cos. Don't under-estimate the importance of luck as well as how mgmt. deals with "luck". Technical expertise hopefully positions a situation to benefit from "luck" however it's ultimately how mgmt. deals with the results that determine whether or not the company keeps moving forward. Drilling exploration prospects is probably another way of saying "luck", some good and some bad. Hedging production may be another, etc.

10. See point #1 above.

koan - hope above does help, re: actual names of some situations that may be worth looking at closer? There are currently many strewn throughout the cdn. oilpatch. Look for situations that don't have an overload of debt (ie. less than 1.5x vs cashflow), have decent portfolio of gas and oil properties that hopefully aren't declining too quickly, have mgmt. that are both respected and seasoned as well as hard workers.

Some folks feel that there still are some profits left in things like BEC Belair just because 2000 cashflow compared to current pricing would appear to be less than 2.0x. In "normal" times the old rule-of-thumb seemed to be to try and buy o&g stocks at less than 3 times price/cashflow and then be looking for reasons to be selling if/when ratio reached 5.0x

Then again, are we (the oil&gas sector) really in normal times?.......

Bottomline. Cyclical.



To: koan who wrote (7481)8/22/2000 4:57:53 PM
From: .Trev  Respond to of 24939
 
You might enjoy the Price Waterhouse Canadian Oil and Gas Survey That's available on their web page at pwcglobal.com

I'm going through the same education at the moment.

Cheers
Trev



To: koan who wrote (7481)8/22/2000 8:53:18 PM
From: russet  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 24939
 
Hi Mr. Koan,

You might want to try over here for oil and gas chat. It says "strickly drilling and services" but they are always talking about their favorite oil and gas plays too.

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=14256794

They have a contest running on who can pick the best portfolio of drilling and service stocks. I have seen the results at least once a month I think. Here is the latest post on that. Most stocks discussed are U.S. trades, so you can save some commission charges.

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=14235173&s=contest

Many people think there will be a crisis in Natural gas supply in coming months and the price may explode even more than it has so far. Dwindling reserves of oil, and conversion of coal and oil burning industrial plants to natural gas to protect the environment seem to lead one in this direction.

Here is the KOB thread. A great play in Natural gas is developing in California. Go to the site by LHG mentioned in this post to get a nice snapshot (several snapshots, maps etc.) of the various plays. Things may start to heat up in a few weeks as drilling is ongoing now and approaching the gas charged zones. The stock prices have slumped in recent weeks due to lack of news and the summer doldrums, but if/when we get a few kicks of gas on entering those gas bearing zones, history suggests the stocks will jump (KOB and the smaller Vancouver based stocks have consistently doubled in the past with such news).

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=14255744

This guy used to be a great source of information and had a website that listed his Canadian junior oil and gas stock picks, but I'm unable to find it anymore. You might PM him and find out if he still exists (gggggggggggg).

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/profile.aspx?userid=419528

Good luck!