To: Ish who wrote (54973 ) 8/22/2000 3:08:48 PM From: nasdaqian Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71178 This "health person" was full of carp. Taht's the truth. (How DARian of me, I used the "taht" word. Going into second gear on the road to perdition.) One summer, moons ago, my brother and I worked on a cattle farm in Maryland. Putting up fence and putting up hay mostly. The M.O. was, after the hay was cut, raked and dried sufficiently Mr. farmer hooks a baler to a tractor and a high-sided wagon to the baler. One or two guys, usually me and sometimes my bro would be in the wagon stacking bales. The back of the baler had a shoot which shot 50-100 lb bales, depending on moisture content, into the wagon about 15 feet every 10-15 seconds depending on the amount of hay/unit area on the ground, speed of the tractor and such technical variables. At least if we weren't on a turn where it would completely miss the wagon or hit the side and fall on the ground in front of the wagon. When that happened someone had to get off the wagon, hoping it wasn't a wet one, and get that doggy up onto the wagon. In 95 degree humid hell frantically trying to stack a bale before another 80 pounder comes roaring out of that thing to knock me on my ass. Then the luxuriously restful ride to the barn where we'd unload the wagon of its coupla hundred bales and stack it again in the barn. A metal roofed, none too ventilated barn. And again the pace determined by the rate at which the bales came off the conveyer this time which was loaded by the guy unloading the wagon, the easier job. Not just one wagon a day, but 4 or 5 some days. Some fun. Poor former me. I've never been in better condition. Not that I'd wish to repeat it. "not aerobic", f' her! Bucking hay bales can't be good for the back though.