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To: Neocon who wrote (86005)	8/22/2000 12:26:14 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Reagan administration changed the statistics repeatedly to exclude more and more people out of the averages for unemployment- people just getting out of the military, for example. That shallow recession was not shallow for defense workers.

To: Neocon who wrote (86005)	8/22/2000 12:39:25 AM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

If you lie with dogs... you get Cohn's disease. Neo-<whatever> doesn't make it better. Call him a Neo-Cohn. If all the leftist protesters are somehow vilified by reactionaries into the anti-Christ on earth, and all the many positive changes that came out of that movement of many well-intentioned, honorable people are discounted, it is disingenuous to not own the rhetoric of the Anti-red [gG]ods of this jihad. By equating "Reds" with "Soviet" people who were "anti-Communist" could vilify their enemies and take liberty away from them. It's that simple.

To: Neocon who wrote (86005)	8/22/2000 12:47:06 AM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

One of the things that amuses me is that people who would never think of second guessing the military commanders of World War II, because they understand that strategy and tactics require study and mountains of information, have no hesitancy in spouting off about the conduct of the Cold War. People who know, in their own fields, that laymen are soon lost, and only experts could conceivably understand the issues, appoint themselves little Napoleons. I never knew you had such overwhelming faith in the central government. I suppose that laymen, who can't conceivably understand the issues, have no business challenging Federal tax or regulatory policy either. I actually have no problem with entrusting military operations to the military, but the Cold War was less a military exercise than a political one, and I am not comfortable with entrusting foreign policy to the military and to civilian ideologues. One of the great tragedies of the Cold War was the purging of virtually every real China expert in the State Department, and their replacement by ideologues with little knowledge of China. The expertise of our experts can be called into question, especially in the developing world (where the cold war was actually fought), where the stupendous ignorance of American diplomatic and intelligence representatives became legendary.