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To: Scumbria who wrote (122720)	8/22/2000 12:33:45 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571035

His political opponents have been very clever about casting him in a poor light, but every time he gets in a face-to-face debate, he kicks some serious rear. Remember how Jack Kemp was going to destroy him in the '96 debates? Scumbria, Gore is cool! He plays it straight from the gut. I think he is one of the most undervalued gov't leaders in this country. ted

To: Scumbria who wrote (122720)	8/22/2000 1:24:06 AM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1571035

Scumbria, OT I've worked with Gore, and he is the most technically saavy politician in Washington. How is it that in 8 years as a vice president this information has not made it to the outside world? I have not heard Gore speak once on the subject of technology that would make me any more comfortable with him. If this is his strength, why isn't it publicized? Who cares that he makes toast for his kids? Actually, for those who care about nutrition, it is an indication that he either doesn't care about his kids nutrition or that he has no clue. I noticed that his kids, other than the oldest one are fat, which gives you some indication of the application of his technical savvy in practice. I think his "savvy" is nothing more than a pet "cause" that is adopted by first ladies, to show that "they care". No knowledge of the subject is required other than saying in the interviews that they "care". My understanding continues to be that he is an environmental fanatic whose ideas on how to help the environment make no sense, when examined. Of course he will say he "cares" and he will prove he is serious by his willingness to take money out of my wallet and throw it at the subject he "cares" about. He is also a lackey of the trial lawyers, unions, the government bureaucracy. Only the Spanish inquisition is in my opinion a more powerful force for keeping a nation in the dark ages than this group. Joe

To: Scumbria who wrote (122720)	8/22/2000 10:57:35 AM
From: EricRR	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571035

I've worked with Gore, and he is the most technically savvy politician in Washington. He was a key player in the publication of the Internet, and he keenly understands the need for liquid fuels to power transportation. Liquid fuels? Why do we need that? His almost religious aversion to the Internal combustion engine is ridiculous. What we need is more energy efficient engines, as in energy (or perhaps quantity**location of air pollution, or CO2) per mile. The workings of such an engine should be left to the market. Some people don't understand that something needs to produce that extra electricity for hydrogen, and that that process might be less efficient than just using a fuel efficient engine, and that increased electricity production in some parts of the country (with grandfathered coal plants) might lead to even more air pollution. The idea of s zero emission engine is a joke. I agree Gore is much more technically savvy than most politicians. And he is a decent person. But he has a fatal flaw. He doesn't delegate responsibility. He doesn't know how to take advise. And he is an intellectual tyrant. This drives good people off his staff. I know this because I grew up inside the beltway, and have met many such affected people. I would much rather have a president who didn't know that Dhaka was the capital of Bangledesh, but who has assembled one of the best advisory teams in recent memory (Powell, Rice's Vulcan group, Goldsmith on domestic policy, and I forgot the name of the economic guy but I saw a very positive profile in the Economist). I don't know as much about W personally as I know about Gore, but if he does seem to have a good mix of pragmatism and principles. The intellectual quality I respect most is common sense- an intuition almost. There are some people with reams of knowledge and logical firepower, but who go through life rudderless, casting one way or the next. They usually become lawyers. We don't need another in the Whitehouse.

To: Scumbria who wrote (122720)	8/22/2000 11:30:40 AM
From: Burt Masnick	Respond to of 1571035

DES MOINES (Reuters) - George W. Bush took a Texas chainsaw to the English language on Monday night. In a relapse of the speaking horrors that plagued his primary election campaign, the Republican presidential candidate turned a 16-minute fund-raising speech into a linguistic massacre. "When we carry Iowa in November, it'll mean the end of four years of Clinton-Gore," he said, just warming up -- and evidently ignoring half of the length of the Clinton administration. Addressing 2,300 Republicans who paid $100 each for a state party fund-raiser, the Texas governor outlined his trade policy in a way that could have given the impression some found the issue terrifying. "I'm a free-trader. I will work to end terrors -- tariffs and barriers -- everywhere, across the world," he said. In a call for compassion, he emphasized enterprise instead. "This campaign not only hears the voices of the entrepreneurs and the farmers and the entrepreneurs, we hear the voices of those struggling to get ahead," he said. Usually the crowd got the message and cheered along regardless. But this one, on security policy, had the audience momentarily perplexed: "We cannot let terrorists and rogue nations hold this nation hostile or hold our allies hostile." Bush's speaking fumbles became legend during the primary campaign, when he tramped the snows of Iowa and New Hampshire letting loose bloopers like a pledge to put "food on the family" and promising to place revenues in a "blockbox" for Social Security. He has largely gotten that under control now that he is the party's nominee, with only minor slips before Monday. On Friday he denounced Democratic candidate Al Gore for fomenting "class warfore."