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To: Machaon who wrote (32859)8/28/2000 6:10:15 PM
From: DMaA  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
What part of the word freedom don't you understand. It's really so simple. Just keep your snotty nose out of other people's business. That's all. Why is that so hard?

Do you feel that organizations can do anything that they like, no matter who it hurts, under the guise of "freedom"?



To: Machaon who wrote (32859)8/28/2000 6:27:46 PM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
I would agree with the exclusion of boys from the Girl Scouts, or girls from the Boy Scouts, because it would be rational discrimination. I would agree with the exclusion of Christians from a Lubavitcher (a Hasidic group) boys club with a strong religious purpose. I would disagree with the exclusion of red heads from the Boy Scouts, and might make something of it, but I would not think it merited court interference, however arbitrary. The exclusion of blacks might warrant court action because we have decided that pervasive segregation is a great social evil, and developed the doctrine of public accommodations to combat it. On the other hand, whether the Boy Scouts should be viewed as a public accommodation is a matter for serious argument. Private clubs get to determine their membership. (That is what freedom of association is about). So no, I do not think that organizations should do anything they like, or even can do anything they like. However, there is a strong presumption in their favor, and I am not prepared to regard homosexuals as a protected class similar to blacks. Jerking one's knee is easy, thinking about the complexities of a question is hard........



To: Machaon who wrote (32859)8/28/2000 7:02:17 PM
From: Les H  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769667
 
Parents have the right to determine with whom their kids will associate. It should be left to the Boy Scouts and their member parents to determine their policy. Perhaps, those parents wishing a gay pack leader can opt for one under the auspices of the Boy Scouts.