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To: MikeM54321 who wrote (8408)9/9/2000 9:37:31 AM
From: Carolyn  Respond to of 12823
 
Hi, Mike.
FWIW, ACTV (IATV) seems to have all the right connections (John Malone, Liberty Digital, Liberty Livewire), a slew of contracts, and patents. It is cheap. A ton of information of the thread:

Subject 25560

JMHO



To: MikeM54321 who wrote (8408)9/9/2000 11:24:43 AM
From: justone  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 12823
 
Mike:

I agree this is a really big opportunity. I'm not sure I agree with your statement (quoted below); or rather, I think you are right but for the wrong reason.

"as i-TV rolls out, that puts a substantial burden on the Internet. If i-TV turns out to be wildly successful, that will grind the Internet to a halt. The only solution is upgrades to handle the flood of data. IMO, all three portions(access, metro, and core) will be overburdened if i-TV is successful. I'm basing this statement on the fact that the PC penetration rate is a pittance compared to the penetration rate of TV into households."

I understand that in the US, roughly 50% of homes have PC's and 40% have internet, 80% have cable or satellie, and 98% television penetration of about 100 million homes. Given that people who really want internet already have it, the likely market for NEW internet users on cable tv is something like 40% of US households. Assuming that a remarkable 50% of them go for interactive TV, this is 20 million homes, a mere 50% increase from the current 40 million today. They (couch potatoes who don't use the internet today) are also not likely to be high bandwidth users.

The real source of bandwidth upgrade will likely be, in my opinion, created by Video on Demand (VOD) services. This will certainly create a bottleneck, not at the backbone, but between the location of the video jukebox and the cable head, as at 8pm. every night people try to download movies. Clearly, investing in video jute boxes is a good idea: if I were Blockbuster I would be moving into this market. But back to set tops.

Now, to find the winners in this market, I think the first question is what will the set top box look like? There are two ways the market can go.

1) embedded low cost set top box
2) a PC with extra receiver, decoder, DVD, HDTV and MPEG-2/3/7, and lots of hard disk storage

Basically, with 1) you would pay ~$300 for a box such as GI (now Motorola) and be under the thumb of your local cable service provider such as AOL; but you wouldn't have to do much more than play with a simple remote.

Now 2) already works with expensive ($130) monitors and a TV graphics card such as ATI's "all in wonder". I installed a card for an upgrade fee of $150, and can watch TV in one corner of my screen while working with windows over the rest of the desktop- this is not new technology, but it is neat. The card can also handle DVD, CD, and VCRs.

Given that low end pc's such as e-machines are ~$450, we are getting close to the $300 set top. To make VOD and download programs work you need about a 30G hard drive (this is what TiVo uses, for example) as well.

My guess is that 2) will easily win if HDTV takes off, then 98 million homes, when faced with buying a DVD player, a CD player, game-stations, and HDTV appliances, will opt for a PC that can do it all for under $500.

If most of the 98 million homes are happy with existing tv quality, and their vcr's, then 1) or 2) would work depending on where they want to buy separate DVD, CD, game-stations. It will also be a matter of ease vs. freedom, and of course, cost.

In any case, to find a successful play, you should probably try to find the common denominator between PC and set tops. Set tops have closed OSs unless they run Windows or LINUX, but PCs are open, so a software play is dangerous if we don't know the market outcome. The same is true with set top manufacturers: for all we know Dell and Compac might not just rollover and fade away, but try to compete in this market!

My guess is that the safest play is to invest in the companies that sell 'guns to both sides': that is semiconductors that work in PC's and are in some of the embedded set tops.

Processors: Intel, and a bunch of specialized integrated chip companies - not many are low valued
Modem: Broadcom, Motorola - not much low value there
TV chips - I don't know this area
Graphics: ATI (ATYT) and Navida (NVDA) are about it, after a recent shakeout. ATI, in my opinion, is very
undervalued, while NVDA is values at 4 times ATI for some reason. So I would suggest ATI (ATYT) as an investment possibility.

I'd be interested if anyone has any other semiconductor stock ideas that might be undervalued today.



To: MikeM54321 who wrote (8408)9/15/2000 1:13:15 PM
From: MikeM54321  Respond to of 12823
 
Re: ISP and TV Merging - Microsoft's MSN and WebTV Plan

Thread- In a direct move to boost their ISP service subs, MSFT is making a direct connection between their Internet service(MSN) and the TV(WebTV). I thought it was an interesting move. So if a consumer was trying to make a choice, they can get MSN unlimited access for $20/month and MSFT throws in WebTV for free. Or they can go to AOL and get only ISP service for $22/month. Then to add insult to injury, AOL is going to charge something like an extra $15/month for AOL TV. That's not going to last long if they see MSFT is successful with this new offer.

IMHO, as digital TVs become commonplace, there will be little to distinguish between going online via a TV or a computer. In the meantime, there are hundreds of ideas on how to get there and how to make money off the convergence.

The bottom line to telecom infrastructure investors is-- More bandwidth used, the more equipment required. -MikeM(From Florida)
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Microsoft Offers Free WebTV Service to MSN Subscribers

9/15/00--Microsoft has quietly begun offering free WebTV to new MSN subscribers, hoping to lure more customers for the interactive TV service, the company confirmed.
New subscribers to Microsoft's MSN online service are eligible to receive a new WebTV Plus TV set-top box and wireless keyboard for free. The WebTV Plus box has an estimated retail price of $199, and the keyboard retails for $49. Subscribers would then use MSN as their primary Internet service provider, using MSN to access the WebTV service.

The move is the latest by the Microsoft interactive TV subsidiary to jump-start its membership numbers, which have hovered around 1 million for the past year. WebTV, which pioneered Internet access through the television, faces growing competition from the looming threat of AOLTV, as well as from digital video recorders like TiVo and Replay.

Microsoft TV, the software maker's server software for interactive television, has not fared much better. After signing key agreements with European cable provider UPC and AT&T, Microsoft is rumored to be months behind in shipping its TV server software and in danger of losing momentum to Liberate Technology. Liberate recently signed an agreement with UPC, and sources say it is negotiating with AT&T.

Since its acquisition by Microsoft in 1997, WebTV has explored new ways to package its service, including focusing on interactive TV broadcasting while at the same time targeting a higher-end audience. This strategy has met with mixed results, especially as the core audience of WebTV subscribers is heavily skewed toward first-time users and non-PC owners.

Microsoft has experimented with integrating MSN's features into the TV service. A recent WebTV upgrade included MSN Messenger, and WebTV executives have previously said that the service will eventually include other Microsoft services like MSN Hotmail.

"It's something that will be natural for us to do," said a WebTV representative. "We're planning on doing more in the future. We're both companies of Microsoft."

Some sources close to WebTV believe the promotion is part of WebTV's effort to assure some of its licensees, which include Philips Electronics and Sony, that it and Microsoft are committed to marketing the WebTV service and driving sales of the set-top boxes by absorbing some of the service costs.

By proving Microsoft's commitment to marketing and promotions, the thinking goes, WebTV can convince these licensees to not only stay on board, but to sign up to manufacture upcoming products, sources say.

Microsoft has traditionally subsidized some of the manufacturing costs of the boxes in an effort to appease manufacturers. Although WebTV set-top boxes sell for less than $200, they can cost much more to manufacture. Microsoft typically absorbs that difference.

WebTV has tried similar promotions previously and is running a special that gives rebates of up to $250 to new WebTV customers who purchase two months of the service. Earlier this year, MSN offered six months' free trial to new customers.

Both the MSN and WebTV promotions end Sept. 30.