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To: RR who wrote (169)	9/10/2000 6:19:34 PM
From: elpolvo	Respond to of 65232

RR- that's what i was going to say. :-) <eom>

To: RR who wrote (169)	9/10/2000 7:07:04 PM
From: Voltaire	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 65232

Glad to hear it Rick. BTW - I will be buying calls on that EXTR crap tomorrow along with RMBS. LOL Thanks, Volster

To: RR who wrote (169)	9/10/2000 7:30:04 PM
From: invictus	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 65232

I second Rick's comments...a suggestion: don't type anything on that keyboard aimed at a person that you wouldn't say face-to-face to them...some individuals turn into King-Kong when they get behind a computer (just like some folks do when they have a little too much to drink)...I have no problem with a moderated group...I went to church this morning and listened some people chatting about "how bad times are"...man, I just sat there thinking how lucky I am...and thankful for everything in my life...and optimistic...I think we are still riding on a technology boom...let the bulls run baby! EJ

To: RR who wrote (169)	9/10/2000 7:53:08 PM
From: pinhi	Respond to of 65232

Well said, Rick. <eom> Pinhi

To: RR who wrote (169)	9/10/2000 8:53:56 PM
From: Clappy	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 65232

RR, I agree with all four of your points that you have written. I've received numerous PM's explaining how I was wrong in my posts that appear to be supporting Bonnie. I must have some ulterior motive, etc... I've tried numerous ways to explain myself. Yet, I'm bombarded with reasons why I'm wrong. To save me from further explanations about my opinion, I wish to publish it here. I agree completely with the common logic of forming a New Moderated Porch. It makes complete sense. My main objective in this fierce battle of nice people vs. kindness is as follows: Cyber space consists of many variables. Among them are people who have the abilty to hide their faces and remain as annonymous as they wish to be. Some people feel free to disclose much of their private life. Often this includes only a version of their life that they chose to tell. Often they chose to only show their good side. I'm probably guilty of only showing my good side and positive thoughts. This is probably the way I act out in public, as well, in real life. There are others who chose to take this opportunity to act out in way that they wish they could act out. This would be in a negative manner. Perhaps they have some sort of a deep seeded problem or feeling of hatred. They come across some faceless person and tell them all sorts of mean spirited things. They can be as offensive as they want. Now take this person and put them in a real life situation and they try to mend fences and befriend the same people they may have provoked. It seems clear that this person may need some sort of help or at least shown that cyberspace can be used as a place to let out positive emotions as well. You wrote: It is tool we must use in cyberland since we are not able to do so in person. For example, I have been to many public forums where people have been excluded, escorted out of the meeting, due to their behavior. I've seen it happen at school board meetings, city board meetings, and many of the athletic events I've attended. In fact, it happened at the soccer game yesterday when a parent got out of control with their comments. Numerous people tried to reason with this person to no avail. Eventually the officials stopped the game and demanded the person leave the park before resuming the game. The crowd, even some on his team, clapped at his exit. It is a matter of civility and respect. Such is not an unreasonable expectation. I understand and agree. Certainly this is an expected outcome for a person who acts this way in real life. Who actually can take the time to get to know this annoying person, in real life? Who would want to? The beauty of cyber space is the opposite side of this coin that we see. This same anonymous veil that we hide behind can be easily used to spread goodwill. It's easy to share this goodwill among others who are equally as nice as you. It is also easy to share goodwill with those evil bastards who screw with good people. Cyberspace's anomynity makes it so easy to be kind. If I walked through the streets of NY telling people that I loved them, I'd be looked at as if I was crazy. This would bother me, so I'd quickly stop. In cyberspace, I can write it, people can think I'm crazy, but I'm still hiding behind my veil of anomynity. Thus I can continue being kind to who ever I want to. Heres's where it get's a little tricky... Take the people who read all this nice stuff. They see a group of people, like the Porch, actually helping a person who is mean spirited. They become puzzled but then see how all these people feel better after helping a person who clearly doesn't deserve help. Some of them turn around and help some other mean person and so on, etc. Eventually this new revolution in cyberspace actually begins to penetrate the real world. All of a sudden, instead of only the Nuns, religious people, and kind people helping those in dire need, it becomes more of us Porcher type who are willing to help. People like Bonnie are crying out for help. The people in her real life haven't helped her. The people from the Dell message board haven't helped her. The people from the Rick message board haven't helped her. We Porcher's haven't helped her. She will continue to move on and search for help. Her cries of help come in the disguise of pissing people off. To cause problems among happy people. If she can't be happy, why should anyone else? That's her thinking. We were pretty close to her. We had a chance to end her misery. If we continued to befriend her, tolerate her, and get closer to her, perhaps we could have gotten closer to the source of torment. Perhaps we could have steered her... Was this our responsibility? No. However, I was thinking that this Porch had the ability to actually help her. We have a group of special people here. A nice group are warm, kind, loving, people. If anyone could have helped her, it was us. Now she will continue to move on, causing havoc and speading negativity. Perhaps we are safe now. We have helped our selves. We haven't helped those who really need it. Again, It's easy to do this in cyberspace. Hopefully others will catch on. Cyberspace has lost another group of people who could have made a difference. As we speak another moderated thread is being formed. The great wilderness of cyberspace is being taken over by the real world. -Clappy P.S. They say I'm just a dreamer. I'm not the only one. P.P.S. If any of you are contemplating PMing me as to why Bonnie is not worth it, you are missing my point. Please read the above again. I'm tired of explaining my position. It's over with. I'd rather talk football. The Giants won! Skins lost! Cyberspace is different from the real world. We are losing ground more and more each day. Fight the good fight. Peace.

To: RR who wrote (169)	9/10/2000 10:49:09 PM
From: RR	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 65232

What to do? Been pondering the market a lot this weekend. Earnings warnings period is upon us, INTC downgrade, discussion of slowdown in chips and infrastructure, the Naz going down, etc. Hum.... 1.) Well, first thing that comes to my mind is that we expected a bit of a pullback somewhere in September. Should be no surprise. Nothing has changed in that regard other than maybe it coming sooner than some of us expected after Labor Day. 2.) The second thing that comes to mind is to think forward toward year end. Nothing I've studied this weekend has changed my mind from believing that we will run for 5000 at some point before year end. Still a lot of money on the sidelines. Think what will happen when the cash is turned loose. I hope the Naz holds above 3900. If it doesn't, we may see more of a pullback in here than we thought. It may last on into October before we climb back. 3.) The third thing that comes to mind is my plan. Ya'll know how strongly I feel that everyone should have an investment plan and strategy, with contingencies. The only adjustment I'm going to do to my plan is factor in a contingency if the Naz continues to head down further. Consequently, I'll be more cautious entering any positions on Monday. If we trend downward and loose support, that will effect entry targets and timing. If we do tread water in here until October, there will be plenty of time to enter positions to still capture a run to 5000. Patience..... 4.) The fourth thing that I'm telling myself now is STAY ON TARGET. I have my plan. Stay with it. If the Naz heads down, one can't get shaken and scared. Stay disciplined. Be smart and execute your plan. Those are some thoughts going through my head as I get ready for tomorrow. I'll be out of town a lot this week, so won't be able to watch the market as much as usual. Ya'll kick its butt, ok. Hang in there. Seize those opportunities. Have the guts to step up the plate and do something about it. At the end of this week, be able to look back and think you did something positive with your life plan. One last thing.... stay off margin. Get debt free. Now that is a good life goal. I hope everyone has a super week. Take care all. RR