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To: Nuni who wrote (55712)	9/12/2000 9:53:04 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

I only have boys, never had a daughter, so there are a lot of worries I have been spared, but if I had daughter, and she was dating an Egyptian man, my question would be whether he was Christian or Islamic. Remember the Sally Field movie, "Not Without My Daughter"? Something like that really happened to a woman my father's second wife knew. She met him in graduate school, and he was very nice to her and treated her very well, but when they went back to the Middle East, it turned out that she was wife number three, and the other wives hated her and treated her badly and made her clean all the toilets and so forth. When she decided to leave him, her parents sent money to the consulate and she escaped over the wall of the compound carrying her child, but almost was not allowed to leave. If they have a child and then split up, and he decides to go back to Egypt and takes the child with him, it will be almost impossible to get the child back. When so many marriages end in divorce, these are not trivial concerns. I would feel the same way if one of my sons wanted to marry someone from a foreign country, because a woman could do the same thing. Bitter custody battles are so common, and so horrible, adding this additional hurdle would trouble me. That said, our former landlord is formerly Egyptian, Coptic Christian, a U.S. citizen, works for the EPA, married an American woman, and had two nice children and they are still married. So sometimes, probably usually, it works out. One thing about me is that I only dated guys I considered to be potential marriage material. I figured why get involved with someone if you didn't think the relationship could be long term? Not all women feel that way.

To: Nuni who wrote (55712)	9/12/2000 11:22:04 AM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

There actually are a number of twin-marrying-twin couples -- more than most people suspect. If you aren't in the twin culture thing, it is mostly hidden -- like the deaf culture (which I have had my eyes opened to in the last year since my girls have been taking American Sign Language at college.) Hmmm -- hadn't thought, though, about the children's relationships. I agree that a shaved head and an earring are much more palatable when accompanied by two Masters Degrees and a high tech job. But still . . . People always talk about how hard the teen years are. Baloney. The hard years are the being the parents of children leaving the next and trying out those wings. Where is OUR support group? Where is my local chapter of POKBA? (Parents of Kids Becoming Adults)

To: Nuni who wrote (55712)	9/14/2000 4:30:42 AM
From: nihil	Respond to of 71178

The twinsxtwins --- if identical on both parts -- would be double identical twins. The offspring of the two couples would be genetically identical in ancestry, but would not be identical. One set of kids would be no more variable than the other, so that one kid would be as closely related genetically in the other group as each was itself. As for your Egyptian, I just discovered that my wife is descended from a 16th Century Turk who had married into a noble Virginia family, not only that, but he was a descendant of the Prophet. No doubt, your Egyptian could trace his ancestry back to the Pharoahs (if he would). You are right (as usual) to be cool.