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To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (8571)9/14/2000 1:43:47 PM
From: that_crazy_dougRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 275872
 
<< Which is pretty good, though of course I'm sure this is dependent on Intel's latest, greatest special spec optimizing compiler that's useless for anything else. Expect to see that number flogged heavily in the upcoming campaign, as opposed to the integer spec number or numbers on anything not SSE optimized. >>

I find it amusing that people complain about optimizations for the chip. Let's face it, no one cares if it's clock for clock slower on today's software. Today's software runs on a p3 500. Tomorrow's software will be optimized for the p4, and if the optimizations make it clock for clock faster, then it is a huge success.



To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (8571)9/15/2000 11:08:47 AM
From: Daniel SchuhRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
One final P4 spec number from billybob @ aces' message board. All numbers for 1.5ghz part

Specint2000 502
SpecFP2000 525

By comparison, the best posted scores for the P3 at spec.org are for 1ghz cumine, on an OR840 (dual rambus channel) system, Intel 5.0 compiler.

CINT2000 438 base, 442 peak
CFP2000 327 base, 335 peak

Again, the int scores don't look very impressive, 14.6% increase from a 50% clock increase. FP looks better, a 60.5% increase from a 50% clock increase. I think a fair amount of the FP jump comes from the faster bus, the spec FP things seem to be getting stream-like.

The couple posted Athlon scores are FP only, and aren't on the face of it competitive, till you go back and compare equivalent compilers. Again, it's nice that Intel has a whole compiler operation just to generate good spec numbers, but I don't think that'd be the best way for AMD to spend its money.

Cheers, Dan.