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To: jbkelle who wrote (124069)9/17/2000 12:02:41 PM
From: Daniel Schuh  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1572159
 
jbk, this is getting really confusing. How does manufacturing hydrogen from methanol or gasoline buy you anything? Whether you do it on an industrial scale or via some chip-scale operation? And where does the carbon go when you do it? What kind of chip is going to make enough hydrogen to power a motor vehicle?

Fuel cells are cool and everything, but they've been around a long time, with revolutionary advances always just over the horizon. The energy density of a tank of gasoline is hard to beat, though.

Cheers, Dan.



To: jbkelle who wrote (124069)9/17/2000 12:33:01 PM
From: hmaly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572159
 
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JBK..Re...<<<<hmaly, What you described is the hydrogen economy, with hydrogen extracted from methanol or gasoline through an on-board reformer. Each of the auto companies has developed an approach here...I worked on one of them. <<<<

Interesting, what is your honest opinion of how long these fuel cells will take to get to market in meaningful quantities? In addition, what are the roadblocks which could keep fuel cells from becoming viable, refueling, disposal, costs, etc.? Also the articles I had read didn't describe the fuel cells as being part of the hydrogen economy, but rather an alternate clean source which still uses gas.