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To: Scumbria who wrote (53735)	9/18/2000 9:02:10 AM
From: sylvester80	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 93625

I didn't see you answer the fact that AMD is abandoning 3DNow (it has no support anyway) and is moving to SSE2 (witness Sledgehammer). So SSE benchmarks are very relevant. Plus this is not just SSE benchmarks. There are other benchmarks that the PC133 P3 is neck and neck with the 50% faster FSB system. The fact that the i815 and PC133 show that they can beat in some and stay toe to toe in others, while having a 50% slower FSB and memory, speaks volumes that nobody can deny. DDR is a junk vaporware product without a niche and a market segment. It’s not backwards compatible with anything (which means you have to start from scratch with new mobos and new sticks which means more wasted $$$). Not having the volume that PC133 SDRAM does (means prices will be much higher). Having stick incompatibilities with different sticks and different mobos and different chipsets (which will end up being the biggest nightmare and PR disaster that high tech has ever seen). And the fact that they are targeting the white box piece meal hacker market (instead of the high volume name brand OEMs that VIA said will not see them till late 2001), speaks volumes that DDR is D.O.A and in major trouble. I still say that the biggest loser out of all of this will end up being AMD, if they have no alternative plan. And the recent screams from AMD by The Register, proves exactly that. AMD is now in panic mode because they see one of the biggest PR disasters unfolding and have no secondary plan to fall to. On the other hand, the biggest winner will end up being Intel as their i815 and PC133 on the low end, and Pentium 4 and RDRAM on the high end, gets the killer status (not to mention the marketing pressure that Intel will put on AMD if this turns out like I’m predicting). And AMD do it yourselfers are very vocal. Can you imagine the outcry from them when they figure out that sticks they buy on the open market are unstable and may or may not work with their current mobo or a future one? Can you spell PR disaster? It just doesn’t look good at all. I hope someone at AMD is listening and is formulating a back up plan.