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To: Neocon who wrote (39880)	9/26/2000 5:15:31 PM
From: microhoogle!	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

The original poster was asking for accomplishments under the clinton watch. Federal crimes are also at its lowest. You can hate the guy all you want, but you cannot take away from him where credit is due.

To: Neocon who wrote (39880)	9/26/2000 11:26:20 PM
From: PartyTime	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

Neocon-->>>...There are several things that contributed [to the reduction of crime]: frankly, the stabilization of drug markets, and death or incarceration of many of the most dangerous gang members; the move toward community policing, which was adopted by a number of mayors, largely Republican...."<<< First, there is no "stabilization of the drug markets." In fact, The Drug War is nothing but a free ride issue for both Republican and Democrat politicians as they postulate look busy-like positions before a genuinely concerned citizenry. The fact is, The Drug War is an extremely unwinnable war. If our society cannot prevent drugs from being distributed within its prison system--during a time where prison expenditures are equaling education expenditures--how can anyone sincerely believe we can keep drugs out of free society. Problem here is governments cannot legislate morality. Never could and never will. I could go on and on with respect to this issue, however, I won't. Secondly, "death and or incarceration of many of the most dangerous gang members," is not reducing the crime rate because of reasons described above, and more. The fact is those who go to jail, more than not, get out as better criminals. They simply learn new tricks while incarcerated. Fact is we don't have quality (tough and severe) prisons because we put the wrong folks (drug offenders) in jail. Drug offenders get more from treatment, education and preventive measures. Also, the continuation of rising gun violence among youths does not lend credence to your argument. Thirdly, your comment that "community policing, which was adopted by a number of mayors, largely Republican" is not accuarate. Most city mayors, particularly big city mayors where crime is most rampant, are Democrats. Community policing evolved from neighborhood activists trying to develop solutions. It had little to nothing to do with the Republicans. The Republicans came on board late with community policing, much like they did with recycling. But that's a whole 'nother story--LOL!

To: Neocon who wrote (39880)	9/26/2000 11:47:00 PM
From: PartyTime	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

Neocon--I should also point out that a strong economy, in concert with education and community policing, is perhaps the best of all cure for crime. On the surface, it'd seem there'd be more crime given there's more money around for criminal pickings. Well, not quite. What happens is those who otherwise would have resorted to crime, found jobs instead. What's wrong with that? Anyone here have any problems with our nation's unemployment rate?