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To: gnuman who wrote (55571)	9/27/2000 7:56:08 PM
From: Scumbria	Respond to of 93625

Gene, And we've yet to see a PIII/DDR system to get a real DDR/SDRAM comparison.. That data point will be helpful, but is not necessary. Anand did an apples to apples comparison of Athlon/PC133 vs. Athlon/DDR. DDR won every benchmark. www4.anandtech.com The Athlon benchmarks are actually more meaningful than PIII benchmarks would be, because the PIII bus is too slow to benefit from memory faster than PC133. Scumbria

To: gnuman who wrote (55571)	9/27/2000 8:46:43 PM
From: sylvester80	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93625

Gene, The benchmarks posted were apples to apples, Athlon to Athlon, and the DDR system lost badly for something that is supposed to be twice as fast. Both systems were using 1.1GHz Athlon CPUs. Message 14460062

To: gnuman who wrote (55571)	9/27/2000 10:51:13 PM
From: blake_paterson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93625

Hi Gene: I agree with your presumption that, for the near term, SDRAM will continue to rule the world. Head-room, schmed-room. Regarding your comment: "There may be beta platforms where DDR is slower than SDR in some benchmarks, but it's not a measure of the capability of the devices, but of the capabilities of the platforms. Even then, as scumbria points out, there are benchmarks on which the PIII will outperform Athlon, regardless of the memory type. And we've yet to see a PIII/DDR system to get a real DDR/SDRAM comparison.." If only you had been so kind to RDRAM in the past year so as to give it the same objective treatment. Lets see if I can do it for you; all it takes is a couple of word insertions or deletions: "There may be platforms where RDRAM is slower than SDR in some benchmarks, but it's not a measure of the capability of the devices, but of the capabilities of the platforms. Even then, as scumbria points out, there are benchmarks on which the Athlon will outperform PIII, regardless of the memory type. And we've yet to see a PIII/RDRAM system w/ an optimized FSB to get a real RDRAM/SDRAM comparison.." Congratulations. You write eloquently. But what does it all matter. SDRAM, DDR, RDRAM, we got it all! Waiting for the next shoe (read MM) to fall. After that, it will be RDRAM to the rescue. Why build commodity crap when you can make real money on value added primo stuff? Drip, drip, drip. members.home.com BP