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To: edamo who wrote (4861)	10/2/2000 9:49:49 AM
From: Mannie	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 65232

ed... Thanks for the response, but I have to disagree. We are starting to see very efficient battery assisted vehicles like the Honda Insight, many more will be coming to market soon. Fuel cell technology is finally at a point where it should soon be commercially viable. I agree that alternative sources have had their fits and starts, but 30 years is not all that long to develop new technologies. The technology is rapidly catching up to needs and costs. I am not interested in relaxing air standards one bit, I don't think that is going in the right direction. Scott

To: edamo who wrote (4861)	10/2/2000 10:05:11 AM
From: Jim Willie CB	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 65232

Ed, I also see some sea changes wrt alternative energy the fuel cell has become commercially viable, altho still expensive FuelCell has customers now we are tantalizingly close IMO California now has some municipal vehicles tooling around using liquid methane they are also expensive, but subsidies are helping electric battery technology has made 100-fold improvements in the last few years in both capacity and recharge times while I agree with you that oil is not likely to be displaced anytime soon, REAL progress is surely being made... in 1973-74 the OPEC shocked US technology, but we quickly backslid into old ways as OPEC lost its controlling grip the US Sport Utility Vehicle is the laughing stock of the US energy panorama the fuel cell and battery technology in the mid-70's was deep in the bowels of laboratories during intial development... I contend that cell/battery devmt has moved much farther toward the front windows... furthermore, about 4-6 central players now compete with visibility as to product, engineering, customers, and promises I watch California and LosAngeles for cutting edge showcases in two years I predict much more progress will happen, as opposed to the 1970s when everyone forgot about a national response the FuelCell product that I hear of produces several megawatts of uninterrupted power for midsized corporate buildings that is viable, price notwithstanding / Jim