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To: MikeM54321 who wrote (8743)	10/3/2000 10:31:53 AM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12823

Elmatador Czech Republic Phone Bill: Local Phone Line: $2,60 Dial charges for Internet: $115,75 ISP Charges: $0 I just happening to carry my phone bill around to show the police I could entre the area of the IMF Conference as proof of address;

To: MikeM54321 who wrote (8743)	10/3/2000 10:36:11 AM
From: Elsewhere	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12823

So in Germany, it appears you are looking at: 1. Local phone line $12/month 2. DSL surcharge service $9/month 3. ISP service $25/month Or a base rate of about $46/month. Yes. This doesn't include free local voice calls but unlimited Internet access (no time, no volume limit). But apparently you have to pay for the time you are online. Only for analog access. But during the past weeks there has also been a flood of analog ISP flat rate offers, for about 80 DM/month. Funny that the DT DSL ISP flat rate is 30 DM cheaper than the analog one. An explanation I have read is that DT wants to free its voice switching stations from the burden of long Net sessions. Supposedly it's easier/cheaper to administrate separate DSL data traffic. Cable Net access is a sad topic. Basically there is hardly any except some pilot projects. DT is selling nine regional cable stakes but it will take years for the new owners to upgrade the plant. Cable TV rates are about $15/month for 40 channels.

To: MikeM54321 who wrote (8743)	10/3/2000 11:21:29 AM
From: justone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12823

Mike: I recently spread sheeted some actual figures on access costs in the New York area. I use cablevision (www.cablevision.com) , which offers tv, data, and voice in some areas, and charges: $30.74 for "family channel" cable with ~100 Mostly Useless Channels (or, as we say in telephony, MUC) $ 39.95 for data only, but $29.95 if you have the previously mentioned family channel $12.00 for 100 calls with a choice of 3 features out of a list of 9 (voice mail, call waiting, call forwarding, for example) ; additional calls 12¢ each - this is their low end rate; they have other tiers for you if you like $6.05 for an additional line including a choice of 3 features and a line surcharge of $3.50 per month So for a mythical family of four, who like CNN and PBS and the History Channel and Food networks even though they would never be caught dead watching sports, MTV, or a Start Trek rerun, and have a teenage daughter or fax machine, and need a second line, and want broadband data so the engineer in the family can waste his time on Silicon Investor, you would pay, roughly $81 per month. For the roughly equivalent service, using cable TV, and my ILEC (SBC/SNET) for DSL and phone, we have some apples to oranges problems, but I call it: ~ $12.50 for four features and voice mail on one line, either $13.50 for 30 calls, or more likely $19 for unlimited calls for first line, $24 for second line (they rip you off on the second line!), and DSL is $40., Now for TV, you would still need cable for $30.74. So say roughly, $126 per month Now if ATT or AOL were to bundle long distance at a discount, the $100 or whatever I pay each month would also be discounted, I expect by 25%? Thus by my crude analysis I would spend $226 / month for cable/ILEC/IXC unbundled, vs. $156 / month for bundled cable. Not to mention the 2* $0.33 = $.66 I save in STAMPS having to send in one bill, and the 2*$.20 per check I'd save on having one instead of three checks, and the time spent on three bills vs. one as well! Thus it now $156 / month for cable, and $227 / month for Cable+Twisted Pair. Seriously, the single bill it the strongest argument for cable, I think. Thus it seems that Cable is a lot less expensive than Cable+Twisted Pair. Multi line cost is another big advantage of cable, thought I suppose with VOIP over DSL the ILEC will come down in price. I also have a cell phone as well, but that is another story.