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To: Joe NYC who wrote (112305)	10/3/2000 5:44:06 PM
From: andreas_wonisch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Joe, Re: Where did you find out this info? I couldn't find very much on cC0 stepping. Intel hid it very well on its FTP server: ftp://download.intel.com/design/pentiumiii/specupdt/24445321.pdf You have to look at pages 13 and 14 (notes 15 and 16) of the document. It was last updated some days ago. BTW, somewhat strange that Elmer doesn't know anything of a cC0 stepping while Intel uses the description officially in it's own technical documents. The sad thing is that the folks here are willing to just religiously follow the Intel PR statements without thinking for themselves. IMO every CPU with a T_j below 80°C is a bad joke. My own Athlon 800 reached 60°C under heavy system load (e.g. SETI@Home) and I don't take the temperature directly from the core. I'm absolutely certain that the coming 1.2 GHz Athlon will still have a T_j of 90°C while the "relaunch" of the 1.13 GHz P3 will be probably still stuck at 62° until the Coppermine-T stepping appears as a saviour in Q1(?). Andreas

To: Joe NYC who wrote (112305)	10/3/2000 6:21:13 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

Re: "The sad thing is that the folks here are willing to just religiously follow the Intel PR statements without thinking for themselves. They argue that 60C is fine, while clearly it's a joke." No it's not a joke. 60 deg C is fine provided the boxmaker takes the proper steps to design his system to maintain that temperature. I believe Compaq, HP, IBM, DELL, Gateway and the others have the skills to do that and to suggest otherwise is simply irresponsible. You have no facts. Only an opinion which is contradicted by virtually every major hardware manufacturer out there. How do you think that makes you look? EP