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To: Scumbria who wrote (56424)	10/3/2000 8:18:38 PM
From: Dave B	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 93625

Scumbria, I'm trying to separate fact from opinion in your posts and you don't make it easy. When you make a statement like "Intel is building DDR chipsets for P4 which will probably also use two connections, giving a total bandwidth of 4.2GB/s" I want to have clarified what you're talking about (or if you know what you're talking about) -- the servers which have been announced, or something else about which nothing has ever been said. Here are the relevant statements that I can find in your last couple of posts (analyzed for what is fact and what is your opinion)... Intel is building DDR chipsets for P4 which will probably also use two connections, giving a total bandwidth of 4.2GB/s. Fact: Intel is building DDR chipsets (I believe that Intel has announced that they will use DDR for their servers) Scumbria Opinion: Intel is building DDR chipsets for P4 (Intel has never said that they're building DDR for anything except the server version of the P4, so your overly broad statement that they're building DDR chipsets for P4 is incorrect as it is too encompassing). Scumbria opinion: It will use two DDR channels (Intel has never said anything about multi-channel DDR) Scumbria opinion: It will use DDR-II (not necessarily a valid assumption since servers tend to lag behind PCs in memory techology and Intel has never said what type of DDR will be used (that I remember, at least)) I'm not privy to Intel's intentions, but I assume that DDR will be used for all applications. Fact: I'm not privy to Intel's intentions. Scumbria Opinion: I assume that DDR will be used for all applications (Intel has never said anything remotely like this, in fact they've said the opposite -- that RDRAM is their memory of choice for the future. Your assumption has no basis.). Intel has said that they are building P4 DDR chipsets, haven't they? Why wouldn't they use it in a PC? Fact/Scumbria opinion: Intel has said that they are building P4 DDR chipsets, haven't they? (No, they've said they're building chipsets for Foster only, not the other P4 products, therefore incorrect). Scumbria opinion: Why wouldn't they use it in a PC? (Because they've said that RDRAM is the memory of choice for the future, therefore there is no basis for this suggestion. Let's ask this, "they use RDRAM for PCs, why wouldn't they use it for servers?" Or how about "AMD is hiring RDRAM-knowledgeable engineers, why wouldn't they produce an RDRAM-based processor?" The bears jumped all over us about the last one -- your question has the same level of validity.) You're statements about Intel building DDR chipsets for the P4 are as misleading as a woman saying that all men are a*holes. In fact, some* men are a*holes (just as some* versions of the P4 will have a chipset that works with DDR), but not all men are a**holes (just as Intel has never even hinted that DDR will be available for other versions of the P4, and, in fact, has stated the opposite). Your statement was misleading at best by virtue of being too broad. That's why I asked for clarification. But your response indicates that you have no additional knowledge to back up the broader sense of the statement. Dave