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Politics : Al Gore vs George Bush: the moderate's perspective -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Rarebird who wrote (1161)	10/4/2000 12:10:54 AM
From: puborectalis	Respond to of 10042

I agree with you.....I think Gore has to tone down his demeanor and give more specifics of his policies.Bush doesn't know the specifics of his policies.

To: Rarebird who wrote (1161)	10/4/2000 12:12:33 AM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 10042

The format supported the man of many words, Al Gore... I fully expected him to say he was there when God created the world, Jesus walked on water, told Newton to sit under the apple tree and helped Edison design the light bulb. Not to mention Love Canal and the internet. Jim

To: Rarebird who wrote (1161)	10/4/2000 12:23:48 AM
From: Augustus Gloop	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 10042

I'm a republican and can easily say Bush sucked. I, however, would rather eat a steaming plate of yak dung than vote for Gore. He is a weeping chancre on the skin flute of life.

To: Rarebird who wrote (1161)	10/4/2000 12:26:35 AM
From: canuck-l-head	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10042

As a Canuck, you might be surprised to learn I watch your politics with earnest. Just as you have stupid politicians, so do we <g>. However, I think that the release of the Strategic Oil Reserve was a STUPID move. I am not insulting Americans when I say that most folks don't think about what will happen a few months down the road, never mind next week. The reality is that the distribution network, in the US, Canada, or New Guinea can only handle so much product at a time. What, pray tell, is the sense of appeasing the American people by saying, "Hey, we've got extra oil, so let's use it up right away!" Releasing the Strategic Oil Reserve was a political maneuvre intended to show that the Democrats have compassion. BUT, IN FACT, the oil in the Reserve won't get to you any quicker than any of the other oil in the world. The distribution network is over-loaded. (You can only fit so-many Eskimos in a Volkswagen, if you get my meaning.) What happens if the Middle East flares up and war breaks out? The Strategic Oil Reserve is intended for military use, not domestic consumption. If the Middle East were to declare war on the United States and cut off the oil supply, what happens if the American people have pissed away the Strategic Reserve? What happens if the price of oil goes up to $40. a barrel instead of $30.? By using the Strategic Reserve, the Americans will be using oil purchased at maybe $25. a barrel and replacing it with oil that might cost $40. a barrel by the time it is replenished. Plus, the Strategic Reserve would only satisfy domestic needs for about a month. So, Americans get a month of relief and then they're back to the same old thing. Bush's knocking Gore on the Strategic Reserve was well-founded and well-informed. With all due respect. canuck-l-head

To: Rarebird who wrote (1161)	10/4/2000 12:54:35 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Respond to of 10042

I thought Bush was mighty stupid insulting the East Coast (and the energy predicament here) Rarebird, Pumping sour crude out of the SPR will not resolve the heating oil crisis this winter. It will take too long to get refined and distributed to the required markets. We all know that the decision to release oil from the SPR was a political ploy since we knew oil was trending to $40/barrel and potentially to $50 as a result of panic buying. Now as a political ploy, it was blatant. But as foil against over-speculation in the oil markets, it had the desired impact. But it's a situation the Clinton/Gore adminstration SHOULD NEVER HAVE PERMITTED TO HAPPEN IN THE FIRST PLACE. Were the US in the position to be a swing producer of oil, or at least in the position where it could divert its oil production to its own domestic markets, it would undercut the OPEC monopoly. The fact is that much of the problem with the heating oil shortage is due to limited refinery capacity. Refineries are operating at 99% capacity right now and more oil will have no impact on their ability to produce more heating oil. And the fact that current federal policy MANDATES that ALL oil refineries must shut down beginning this month for a maintenance period will certainly create more supply shortages. We haven't built a new refinery in the US for the past 10 years. In that same period of time, numerous refineries have shut down, and some completely dismantled, permanently removing our domestic capacity to produce usable products. Right now we're seeing Alaskan oil being shipped to the Carribbean where it is refined and then transported to the US, thus counting against us as an import. This has CLEARLY GOT TO CHANGE. The US has lost its ability to meet it own oil production AS WELL ITS ABILITY TO REFINE THAT OIL. But as for who won, Bush only had to prove he could stand up against Gore, who is supposedly reknowned for his debating experience. And all he has to do is continue to hammer Gore with one statement..., "where have you been for the past 7 years Al Gore". I certainly can't give Gore any credit for poise during this debate. His physical demeanor was absolutely appalling. If I had acted the way he did in a debate my forensics teacher would have flunked me.