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To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (32296)10/8/2000 8:41:43 AM
From: dennis michael patterson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42787
 
Lee, I have watched the rise of insurance stocks for some time, and been bewildered at the phenomenon. They took a dip late last week, finally. As for drugs, I second your analysis. On the M East. Today's Philadelphia Inquirr headline: "Middle East on the Brink of War." I just checked CNN.COm The Israelis blew up 2 apartment buildings they thought housed Palestinians responsible for the violence. Barak looks like he means business. But he gave Ariel Sharon a platform. What could you expect.



To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (32296)10/8/2000 9:15:18 AM
From: Oral Roberts  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42787
 
<Funny how religion that is all about peace and love for your fellow man equates into the biggest losses of life. "I bet you my god is bigger than your god and can beat him up">

I would expect that God is the number one reason for killing ourselves through all time. That middle east area is so unstable it is truly frightening.

Jeff



To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (32296)10/8/2000 9:57:53 AM
From: Gersh Avery  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42787
 
"I don't think a battle could be won there short of just leveling the whole area and rebuilding from scratch. "

The Romans tried that a while back ..



To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (32296)10/8/2000 10:42:50 AM
From: flatsville  Respond to of 42787
 
Lee--

I've done very well sitting in TEVA this year. I think generics will do well no matter which candidate wins.

Regarding your second comment. I shy away from organized religion for the same reasons I shy away from organized crime...Someone's always trying to take your money for an agenda which is more likely to make you a victim rather than a perpetrator.



To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (32296)10/8/2000 4:24:35 PM
From: Lee Lichterman III  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 42787
 
Wow - Expected hate mail and was pleasantly surprised. Gersh, yes, the Romans tried but they didn't have capability to carpet bomb. Problem is everyone is so close together like "Nam there is no way to tell who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. ( and in this battle, are there any good guys??)

Haim, as usual excellent analysis of the situation. I don't think the roots of this are anti semantic though, it is more to do with the visibility of the region IMO. There aren't many that see what goes on in India/Pakistan, the Africas etc and at least from the little I know, the fighting is not out in the open in the streets like in the middle east. I think it just makes bigger news because a kid in India with a gun and exposed to fighting in the jungles/mountains looks older after seeing the death of real war and going through "real battles" versus the young looking kids in the middle east throwing rocks or getting gunned down in a cross fire. The middle east action makes better video snippets for the 6 o-clock news Also more tourists head to the ME due to the importance of the area to various religions that are the majority here in the states.

As for the markets, how can they still be looking to Wolanchuck for guidance? He is still bullish and was screaming buy at the recent top. I never followed him before but now that I saw his posts first hand, I rate him below Abby, Ralph and Joey. Talk about getting your people in at the top!

I stayed up late last night and checked some weekly cycles looking for a lasting bounce time line and have the SPX capable of bouncing as soon as 2 weeks but the NASDAQ appears to be at least another 4 weeks out. I was amazed to not have any class 1 or 2 signals in my system ( different system than Don's ) so I think it is too early to look for a lasting turn up here and expect a weak bounce if at all. On my blended composite index, it seems to be targeting expiration week as the turn point but it is unclear if it will head up for expiration or wait until shortly after to do so. My cycle line fell right on the 18th.

My biggest fear is that we have already broken multiyear trend lines going back and containing previous selloffs in many of the leader stocks, more practically priced issues and minor sector indexes. The Major indexes have much much farther to go to get back to multi year channels as I have been saying on our site but if they try to drop the same as the smaller sector indexes and stock charts have already done, we haven't seen any selling yet. Just equitable drops in the heavy weights that are propping the indexes up here like SUNW, GE, EMC etc could drop the NASDAQ another 500 to 1000 points, the SPX to 1100 and the OEX to 600. I am not targeting these areas by a long shot but what I am worried about is if these were to drop substantially, would there be a bounce? If foreign money reverses out and there are mass fund redemptions, there might not be X-mas in whoville after all. What worries me the most is the lack of selling. Looking at times and sales, there are only small blocks going off moving prices due to a lack of buyers. One stock I am trading actually is letting the small blocks move prices down then the big blocks come in and buy it all up hours later. At least for this one, it does appear to be under accumulation. I don't have the resources to check others though and feel it may be isolated.

I want to see a rapid flush and get it over with or this could last longer than even the bears want it to. Reading around SI, it seems no one is willing to short this low and they want a bounce to short into while bulls are waiting for signs of a bottom before buying. There just isn't much fuel to spark a rally here with the only shorts being the commercial SP00 traders who actually have increased. Oh well, maybe the kids will get stock certificates in their goodie bags this Halloween. People have to do something with all those worthless B2B and Internet pieces of paper. -ggg-

Good Luck,

Lee



To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (32296)10/8/2000 7:49:21 PM
From: Challo Jeregy  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 42787
 
Lee, re your mention on drug stocks, this article was in the LA Times today -

Gore, Bush: Two Different Futures for the
Economy

By JAMES FLANIGAN

Whoever wins this presidential election will be confronted by a
cooling economy and will have to deal with it as presidents have
always done, by cutting taxes and pumping money into the economy.
But long term, the differences between the candidates become
more interesting for investors and voters. For behind their political
rhetoric, Republican George W. Bush and Democrat Al Gore have
dramatically different ideas about the economy and industrial
development.
And an examination of the candidates' positions on taxes, energy,
the environment and many other matters can offer insights about the
direction of industries and investments in the next four or possibly
eight years.
Meanwhile, however, the next president is likely to be greeted by
an economic slowdown or, worse, a rise in inflation leading to higher
interest rates and a recession.
Many economists expect the economy to slow to a growth rate of
about 3% next year, from roughly 4.2% this year. That would mean
about $100 billion less in economic output, or 2 to 3 million fewer new
jobs. Whoever takes office in January will have to keep the economy
moving at a pace that avoids a sharp reversal in the value of the
dollar and a major downturn in the stock market.
Worse for the new president would be inflation rising above
today's already worrisome 3.5% annual rate, up from 2.2% last year.
If inflation picked up, the Federal Reserve would be forced to raise
interest rates, even if doing so threw the economy into a recession.
The increasingly nervous financial markets today "are watching
inflation right now," says economist William Rhodes of Williams
Capital Management, a New York investment firm.
If Gore or Bush do face a recession in their first year in office--as
Presidents Nixon, Carter and Reagan did in their time--either man
will do what is necessary, tax cuts and government spending, to get
the economy humming again.
And Gore or Bush will be more fortunate than their predecessors
because the next president will inherit federal budget surplus of $200
billion. Surpluses of that magnitude will persist through 2002, predicts
economist Edward Yardeni of the Deutsche Bank Alex. Brown
investment firm. Even a stock market downturn would not reduce the
federal surpluses, because people selling stock would incur capital
gains taxes that would continue to fill government coffers.
* * *
It is in the long term that the ideas of the candidates will steer the
economy in differing directions.
On taxes, a Bush administration would encourage faster economic
growth in a more decentralized economy. George W. Bush's idea is
to cut taxes by reducing tax bracket levels, from today's five brackets
ranging from 15% to 39.6%, to four brackets ranging from 10% to
33%.
The reduction in brackets would help simplify a highly complex
system, says Lawrence Stone, a tax expert at Los Angeles law firm
Irell & Manella who served in the Treasury Department in the
Kennedy and Johnson administrations.
The effect of such tax reductions would be to spur economic
growth--but that would not happen immediately. Broad tax legislation
such as Bush is proposing is not passed quickly by Congress. Bush's
program, even if it passed in a timely fashion, would take effect three
to four years from now and in some cases not until late this decade.
Its long-term importance would be to set a decentralized, lower-tax
pattern for the U.S. economy--as the administration of Ronald
Reagan did 20 years ago.
A Gore administration would use tax policy differently. Rather
than a broad tax reduction, Gore would give tax credits and tax
deductions for specific purposes.
For example, Gore would use tax credits to help families pay for
after-school child care. He would have tax deductions of up to
$10,000 for tuitions and fees at colleges, graduate schools and training
institutions and tax-favored accounts that would enable employers
and workers to finance retraining and pursue lifelong learning.
A principal aim of a Gore administration would be to pay down
the national debt. Doing so would tend to hold down interest rates.
The long-term importance of a Gore program is that it would increase
government guidance of the U.S. economy, in the tradition of Franklin
D. Roosevelt's New Deal.
To be sure, neither candidate is an economic absolutist. Both
Bush and Gore propose to use anticipated budget surpluses to finance
prescription drug programs for the elderly and to expand aid to
education and other purposes.
Pharmaceutical companies and firms engaged in modernizing
education in the public or private sector stand to benefit in this decade
no matter who is in the White House.

But in energy policy, Gore and Bush stand in stark contrast. In
energy, a Bush administration would be more traditional, encouraging
development of oil and natural gas in the United States. A pipeline to
bring natural gas from Alaska would be encouraged, as would
development of new oil in Alaska.
Tax credits and research grants would encourage technology to
gasify and liquefy coal, with the aim of making coal resources usable
environmentally. Companies across a broad range from electric
utilities such as Duke Energy, to explorers for natural gas such as
Barrett Resources of Denver, to companies experimenting with new
fossil fuel delivery systems, such as Syntroleum of Tulsa, would stand
to benefit in such a policy environment.
* * *
A Gore administration, as the candidate indicated in the debate
last week, would try to develop a new kind of energy industry. Gore
would grant tax credits for hybrid cars and trucks powered by both
gasoline and electricity. His administration would support tax credits
for new kinds of electrical motors and home and commercial heating
and cooling systems.
The environmental industry also would receive a new emphasis in
a Gore administration. Gore would use tax credits to support fuel cell
development and new water resource systems. "There would be
programs for resource productivity, the reuse of water and land and
many other resources," says Grant Ferrier, head of Environmental
Business International, a San Diego consulting firm and publisher of
environmental newsletters.
This would be good news for companies such as Vivendi, Cadiz,
Ballard Power Systems and FuelCell Energy. A Gore administration
would support research in energy and environmental ideas that first
surfaced in the oil-short 1970s, with the difference being that
technology has improved in the intervening decades and there is more
money around today.
The paradox of this election is that the effect in the short term will
be business as usual, but in the next four or eight years the outcome
could change the course of the economy.
* * *
latimes.com