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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: cosmicforce who wrote (1602)	10/12/2000 8:03:33 AM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 28931

There is an amazing story in The Wisdom of Bones (which I pulled out last week because I wanted to tell Solon about the implications of a very human, but speechless, skeleton, and have gotten sidetracked by the election) One of the African skeletons, a homo erectus, showed evidence of a terribly deforming and painful condition called hypervitaminosis, which is caused by ingesting too much vitamin A (primarily from eating the livers of other animals). It causes terrible blood clots to form as muscle pulls away from bone that ossify and it eventually cause death. The skeleton was a female and every bone was severely deformed and covered with ossified clots. Dr Walker concluded that the only way this woman could have survived for so long in such a terrible condition was if someone took care of her, fed her and protected her, for an extended period of time. In other words, this skeleton is evidence of sociality that moved beyond nonhuman primate bonding about 1.7 million years ago. Yet the conclusions reached by Dr. Walker about the Nariokotome Boy (1.5 million) are that he lacked the ability to speak, he was illinguate-- a condition so rare today that Dr. WAlker had to coin a word for it-- despite being very tall and thin, and very much human in his outer appearance. (at that time, hominids had already been bipedal for two million years or so) What was very different, and very much more "apelike" than human was the size of his vertebral canal in the thoracic region, a region that is assoiciated with speech. Dr. Walker concluded that the Nariokotomi Boy had not yet evolved to the point that he had the physical ability, the control necessary, to actually speak. It's just fascinating. And the whole book is like a mystery story revolving around evolution. And that's what I meant about the implications of the findings.

To: cosmicforce who wrote (1602)	10/12/2000 12:06:19 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 28931

Good morning all Hi Cos "Watch nature, observe, understand and learn." Part of what is called general revelation deals with exactly that, the created order of all things. I make pots out of clay. If you looked at one of them you could tell quite a bit about me (not everything, but some things). for instance. One thing that you can tell right away is that my pots were made by someone, you can see my fingerprints in the clay. They exhibit order and design. Another thing you can tell, is that I like to make big pots. In order to make big pots you have to have a certain degree of strength. So then you could look at one of my pots and then deduce that it was made(created) by someone, (personal) who designed it, (orderly and logically)and must have been strong enough (powerful) to accomplish the task in the first place. All this from an inanimate piece of mud!! Now if this pot were also sentient, then we could also tell something about it maker by the way it behaved. In other words does it exhibit a sense of morality So lets apply this to nature as we "observe, understand and learn" I look at nature and I see that it also appears to also be made by someone who is PERSONAL, POWERFUL, LOGICAL, and MORAL. At the end of all that if you flip the thing over you will discover that it has been signed by the Artist (formerly known as God). That would be the Bible. If this seems like it is irrational then I'm not sure why. What do you think? Greg