To: EJhonsa who wrote (7581 ) 10/14/2000 7:10:22 PM From: 49thMIMOMander Respond to of 34857 TOT: Sophistry, the Right, the Wrong and Finland (TOT = Totally Off Topic) Finland, luckily, is blessed with a stable buddhist, middle of the road, three party system, surrounded by a lot of more creative free weirdos and individualists. That is, the finnish mental spectra includes at least two moderate extreme opinions, one centric and a lot of really odd ones in a automatically and adaptively breathing balance of something betweem 20-20-20% to 20-30-20%, 30-20-20%, etc solutions plus all the small ones. This is considered the result of, or the corner stone of, finnish pragmatism and consensus, far from sophistry and duality of right or wrong, good or evil,etc. As a result of this pragmatism the left and right now govern in a coalition with the center in the opposition, an unlikely but at this moment efficient configuration. That is, "we" don't really appreciate logic like "I'm a human, you are different compared to me, you must be a monkey" but appreciate Bertold Brecht "What banner do you carry, what group do you stand with, without a united front there can be no (devastating) war" (something like that) That is, it takes two to fight, but with three there is a chance of one mediating, offsetting the potential fight between the two giants, and with at least 5 operators there is tough competition without cartels and monopolies. (4 operators might gang together into a 2+2 merger and a 1+1 cartel, but a third player usually finds a third way, breaks the "balance of terror") Ilmarinen. P.S. short and long term, I once worked with a company who only could focus on impossible products, because the competitors already had the market for most possible products, good strategy in some situations, but not all. P.P.S. Another thing considered finnish (by the swedes) is that there is a time when "talking" (until the cows come home) ends and its time for action, hopefully combined with "little gained by playing the blame game" afterwards if something goes wrong, as it always does, now and then, sooner or later. (that is, sophistry, absolute rights and wrongs are not widely popular, but they too exist.)