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To: EJhonsa who wrote (7581)10/14/2000 7:10:22 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander  Respond to of 34857
 
TOT: Sophistry, the Right, the Wrong and Finland

(TOT = Totally Off Topic)

Finland, luckily, is blessed with a stable buddhist, middle
of the road, three party system, surrounded by a
lot of more creative free weirdos and individualists.

That is, the finnish mental spectra includes at least two
moderate extreme opinions, one centric and a lot
of really odd ones in a automatically and adaptively
breathing balance of something betweem 20-20-20% to
20-30-20%, 30-20-20%, etc solutions plus all the small ones.

This is considered the result of, or the corner stone of,
finnish pragmatism and consensus, far from sophistry
and duality of right or wrong, good or evil,etc.

As a result of this pragmatism the left and right now
govern in a coalition with the center in the opposition,
an unlikely but at this moment efficient configuration.

That is, "we" don't really appreciate logic like
"I'm a human, you are different compared to me, you must
be a monkey" but appreciate Bertold Brecht "What banner do
you carry, what group do you stand with, without a united
front there can be no (devastating) war" (something like
that)

That is, it takes two to fight, but with three there is
a chance of one mediating, offsetting the potential fight
between the two giants, and with at least 5 operators there
is tough competition without cartels and monopolies.
(4 operators might gang together into a 2+2 merger and
a 1+1 cartel, but a third player usually finds a third
way, breaks the "balance of terror")

Ilmarinen.

P.S. short and long term, I once worked with a company who
only could focus on impossible products, because the
competitors already had the market for most possible
products, good strategy in some situations, but not
all.

P.P.S. Another thing considered finnish (by the swedes)
is that there is a time when "talking" (until the
cows come home) ends and its time for action, hopefully
combined with "little gained by playing the blame game"
afterwards if something goes wrong, as it always does, now
and then, sooner or later. (that is, sophistry, absolute
rights and wrongs are not widely popular, but they too
exist.)



To: EJhonsa who wrote (7581)10/14/2000 11:46:39 PM
From: Gary Kao  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 34857
 
Eric:
I found your piece that starts off with the analogy to Aristophanes "The Clouds" quite arresting actually. May I ask you what the reference to "clouds" actually meant? That it "clouded" the judgement of the people at the two extremes?
Thanks again for such a thoughtful and thought-provoking piece, and thanks in advance for your reply,

Gary