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To: agent99 who wrote (8483)10/15/2000 4:03:42 PM
From: TFF  Respond to of 12617
 
On Internet Message Boards,The Bulls Are in Hibernation
By MIKE ANDERSON, AARON ELSTEIN, STACY FORSTER AND ANDREW FRASER
WSJ.COM

For one beleaguered investor, the only rational thing to do on Thursday was avoid a place called Raging Bull.

"I'm going into hiding for a while," wrote the investor identified only as beacon031 on Raging Bull (www.ragingbull.com), one of the most popular message-board communities for discussions of hot stocks. "Lots of emotions here and the negativism is frankly bumming me out."

With the Dow Jones Industrial Average down nearly 380 points -- barely above the vaunted 10000 mark -- and the Nasdaq down to 3074, its low point for the year, Thursday wasn't a day for raging. It was a day investors struggled to deal with a range of worries, such as the possibility of margin calls from their stock brokers and what to make of the market's tumble. Is it time to fight the tide and buy or is it time throw in the towel and sell?


On Internet message boards, where investors share ideas, activity soared as the market tumbled. At Silicon Investor (www.siliconinvestor.com), daily posts were 90% higher than the site's three-month average, said Jill Munden, a company spokeswoman. In contrast, they were 25% higher during the last plunge -- on April 14. But instead of the usual tips about hot stocks, many posters were searching for some cyber support.

Although it was continuing worries about corporate earnings and escalating violence in the Middle East that triggered the stock sell-off, some investors thought there were superstitious forces at work.

"I think years that end in zeros are never good years for the market, and on top of that you've got a presidential election to worry about," said Kelvin Taylor of Goldsboro, N.C., a regular participant on Silicon Investor.

Some said October is just a cursed month. "I got really hit hard in October 1997 and October of 1998," says Donnie Yeagin, of Austin, Texas. "After that, I decided that October is never a good month to be in the market."

Amid the longest bull market in history, investors have endured several downturns, and October is a notoriously bad month. But this time, they weren't as quick to write off the crater in the market as another buying opportunity. The bears came out of hibernation on the Internet.

"I've been investing in the market for 10 or 11 years, and this downturn feels different," said Mr. Taylor. "You usually get these V-shaped drops and recoveries, but here it's been a steady sell-off for a while now."

The prolonged sluggishness in the stock market, underscored by Thursday's big drop, is souring the decade-long euphoria on Wall Street. "People who have made money over the last [10 years] have been buying on the dips, but the longer the dips prolong the less confident people become," said Stephen Franco, an analyst at U.S. Bancorp Piper Jaffray.

Indeed, trading volume at online brokerage firms have been dropping as weakness in the market makes many investors cautious. Mr. Franco estimates average daily trading volume dropped 10% in the third quarter to 950,000 from 1.06 million. The fourth quarter isn't looking any better.

Despite heavy overall volume in the market Thursday, some online brokerage firms said their customers weren't unusually busy. Online investors tend to become paralyzed during dramatic declines in the stock market, preferring to jump in on big upswings, said Mr. Franco.

Although he couldn't immediately provide any numbers, Greg Gable, a spokesman for Charles Schwab Corp., said trading volumes at the firm "were not particularly high" on Thursday. "For a market of that sort, it was a relatively quiet day. It was just a down market day," he said.

Nevertheless, the market's decline provided booming activity at some other firms.

Mike Quinn, vice president of electronic trading at Suretrade, said volumes have been up significantly in the last week, but Thursday reached their highest levels since spring. "We're probably up about 50% -- back to our first-quarter levels, where we were when the market was booming," he said. Suretrade completed nearly 10,000 trades a day in the first quarter.

Allan Reagan, an investor in Round Rock, Texas, said that volatility is the risk every investor must now face.

"If you can't stand the heat, throw it over to a mutual fund," said Mr. Reagan, who posts message on Silicon Investor. "I'm down substantially for the year, but over the past two years I'm up substantially."

However, a Silicon Investor member from Pompano Beach, Fla. who goes by the name of "Dealer," tried to be circumspect about her declining fortunes.

"I was a Qualcomm millionaire earlier this year, but that's all gone now," she said. "I've learned there are more important things in life than money -- the best things in life are free."

And Dealer was thankful that she didn't face one of investors' most common foes in a plunging market: a margin call. "I learned my lesson last year when the market tanked," she said.

A margin call occurs when the equity in the account of an investor who has bought stocks with money borrowed from his brokerage firm falls below a certain minimum. When that happens, the firm usually demands that the investor puts up more cash or securities to cover the loan. If the investor doesn't, the firm could sell securities from his account to cover the debt.

But many investors didn't escape the dreaded margin call Thursday. Melissa Gitter, a spokeswoman for TD Waterhouse, the No. 4 online brokerage firm, said it has seen an increase in margin call activity that is "commensurate with the dramatic movements" in the market. Mr. Gable, of Schwab, the No. 1 online broker, echoed those comments.

One interesting aspect of Thursday's drop is that it was centered on the Old Economy stocks that had been considered dependable and almost immune from the volatility that had become a normal occurrence for high-growth technology and Internet shares. Many online brokers in the past had tightened margin lending for some of those volatile New Economy stocks. But now, blue chip investors were the ones facing the pain.

Mr. Taylor, the investor from North Carolina, said he still trades every day and still likes New Economy semiconductor stocks and Cisco Systems Inc. And though it was Home Depot Inc.'s earnings warning on Thursday that helped trigger the sell-off, he still likes retailers. "I think Christmas shopping will be good, so I'm buying the retailers."

Mr. Yeagin, from Texas, also does see a buying opportunity in the market's volatility. "It's given me a chance to step in and out when everyone else is selling like mad."

But buying or selling stocks on a whim is a strategy that many financial professionals try to discourage. Indeed, in previous market routs, some online brokerage firms have cautioned their do-it-yourself customers that investing is long term and that they should ignore the market's wiggles.

Write to Mike Anderson at mike.anderson@wsj.com, Aaron Elstein at aaron.elstein@wsj.com, Stacy Forster at stacy.forster@wsj.com and Andrew Fraser at andrew.fraser@wsj.com



To: agent99 who wrote (8483)10/15/2000 10:52:01 PM
From: TFF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12617
 
Just when they cut the head off one guru a few more heads appear. The hot subjects list is full of new threads extolling the virtues of the "follow the leader" trading strategy...for a price of course;)



To: agent99 who wrote (8483)1/31/2001 6:58:52 AM
From: TFF  Respond to of 12617
 
My Stocks Are Up 10,000%!
Tired of listening to neighbors brag about stratospheric returns? Convinced their figures are nothing more than hot air? Turns out some are telling the truth--and they're willing to prove it.

By Lee Clifford

Dan Zanger

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Dan Zanger
Former pool builder U.S. dollars The market is in a "breakaway gap to the downside," says Zanger. (Um, right.) Until the charts look better, he says, he's sticking to cash.


Every few weeks last fall, a shifting array of Dan Zanger's friends would gather in the basement of his Los Angeles home. They weren't there for chitchat, however, or to watch the game. They were there to witness a performance--and to learn.

For a few hours at a time, anywhere from three to five buddies would sit rapt in the darkened room, with windows shuttered to keep out the light, trying to glean the secrets of an artist at work. His blond hair as rumpled as his casual clothes, Zanger sat in front of five computer screens like a rock keyboardist surrounded by synthesizers. His body would tense as his eyes darted over the scrolling list of 800 stocks that he follows. Every so often, with the flick of a finger, he'd enter a buy or sell order.

Zanger would concentrate so hard that he didn't notice when spectators came and went. He wouldn't hear the questions they called to him. "I'm like a surgeon going in to do an operation," says Zanger. "I'm totally focused."

It's no wonder his friends and neighbors were curious. Just three years ago, Zanger, 47, was paying his bills by working in Beverly Hills as a swimming pool contractor, building Hefner-worthy tropical fantasy pools for rich and famous clients. In a good year he could make $50,000. Since then his investing, Zanger says, has turned $11,000 in savings into $18 million. That's a gain of 164,000%. "As far as I know," he exults, "it's the world record."

Talk about any recent investing trend, and Zanger will tell you he was one step ahead of the market. "I foretold the biotech move two or three months ahead of time," he says. And those other investors who got whipsawed by the rapid turnaround in Internet stocks? Not Zanger. He says he was short-selling those stocks. Referring to a prediction he made in an investing newsletter that he began publishing last year, Zanger adds, "I showed everybody the market top of March 10."

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've all met a Dan Zanger--or 20. You know whom we're talking about: the guy at work who won't shut up about how he's whipping every fund manager on the planet with his tech portfolio. The golf buddy who can't stop droning on about the excruciatingly obscure--but incredibly lucrative--options scenarios he picked up from a $25 book. Or your neighbor's 21-year-old kid who, to hear his parents tell it, has made enough in the market to pay for their retirement.

The only difference? Zanger appears to be telling the truth. His 1999 tax return and trading records, which he shared with FORTUNE, show capital gains of $14,232,878.

Zanger is rare, but he's not alone. We undertook to locate members of a very unusual breed: individual investors who chalked up out-of-the-ballpark returns--and were willing to prove it with tax or trading records. Though no one was able to equal Zanger's universe-beating numbers, we did find a tiny, scattered tribe of investors with the kind of results that entitle them to all the cocktail-party bragging they want to indulge in. Our not-so-motley selection includes everyone from a stay-at-home dad to a personal trainer. Their investing styles couldn't be more different, though they usually combine an Olympian tolerance for risk with a penchant for unorthodox strategies that involve charts, options, margin, and the like--not to mention insane luck. They all have one thing in common: They are hands-down, no two ways about it, making mincemeat out of all those highly paid pros.

By definition, most of us can't beat the market averages. But since investing became America's most popular participatory sport in the '90s, outperforming Wall Street wisemen has become a national obsession. It's the quintessential American myth--Anybody can make it big--reincarnated for the new millennium. And like any compelling myth, it requires a handful of unlikely individuals to keep us convinced that, yes, a muscle-bound personal trainer can outinvest a hedge-fund manager with billions of dollars in his portfolio. It's a tale Horatio Alger might have penned--if he had known a world with discount brokers and online investing.

So what's Zanger's secret? The former pool contractor, who resembles a poor man's--er, a rich man's--Richard Branson, was always more than happy to explain his secrets to his friends once the market closed. He would become animated, describing to his awed flock why he bought, say, 1,000 shares of AskJeeves.com at the precise moment he did. The stock, he'd tell them, was clearly headed into a "pennant" formation--it had risen and then tapered off quickly--and thus seemed primed for another quick, steep increase.

His friends would look on in glassy-eyed bewilderment as he explained his "technical" investing philosophy. It's not exactly a strategy that would make Warren Buffett proud. Zanger completely ignores yardsticks such as price-earnings ratios and revenue growth. The only thing he cares about is how a stock is behaving. "I trade whatever the market is going to push up the most," Zanger says. "It doesn't matter what the company does, or what their earnings are." Devotees of technical analysis believe that stock prices move in easily recognizable visual patterns that an experienced investor can capitalize on. So when CMGI is gearing up to a "cup and handle," or Amazon is perilously close to a "descending triangle," or--egad--"channel formation," Zanger moves. He internalizes those curves, those spikes, like a doctor scrutinizing a heart patient's monitor in an intensive-care unit. "Stocks are my buddies," Zanger says. "I know when they feel good or when they feel bad."

At the beginning of November last year, Zanger noticed that Qualcomm's stock was acting "a little frisky." So he dove in, buying 5,000 shares on the way up from a split-adjusted $57.50 to $62.50. In a matter of weeks the stock was trading as high as $93 but was incredibly volatile. Zanger hung on, buying and selling parts of his position on dips and spikes. By Dec. 30 the price had leaped past $161. On the first day of the New Year the stock jumped a bit more, and Zanger unloaded his remaining positions at $196 and $194 for a profit of $2.7 million. How did he know to sell near the very peak? "It was clearly in a massive parabolic blowoff top," says Zanger. Obviously.

This spring, Zanger says, he moved most of his assets into cash, shielding him from the tech meltdown. There the money will remain until his charts tell him the worst is over. While he waits for that to happen, Zanger is busy preparing to raze the home he recently bought in Kirkland, Wash. He plans to replace it with a dwelling modeled on Frank Lloyd Wright's Falling Water. "You should see the pool it's going to have," he swoons. As for the building of his mini-empire, Zanger is unequivocal: "It's the greatest story ever told."

fortune.com



To: agent99 who wrote (8483)1/31/2001 8:20:58 AM
From: TFF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12617
 
Wall Street Prophets
Public Unaware Of Conflict Of Interest For Stock Analysts
Their Wall Street Firms Often Take Companies Public
And Have Stake In Very Firms They Report On

Jan. 30, 2001

(CBS) If you're like many people you lost a lot of money in the stock market lately whether you traded yourself or just watched your 401(k) dwindle.

A lot of that money was lost following the advice of Wall Street stock analysts, the experts who work for big brokerage houses. Think of them as the prophets of Wall Street. They analyze a company, look into the future and recommend whether to buy the stock.

So how did so many get it wrong? Many investors don't realize that some high-profile analysts and their firms stood to make a fortune on stocks they recommended. A lot of their advice was tailored to make them rich, not you, as Correspondent Scott Pelley reports.

"I don't know frankly how some of these analysts live with themselves," says former analyst Tom Brown. "I couldn't get up in the morning and look in the mirror and know that I just caused somebody to lose 50 percent of their retirement money because I exaggerated and lied. And that's exactly what I saw at DLJ."

Forty-two-year-old Brown worked at the Wall Street firm Donaldson, Lufkin & Jenrette for seven years. He was a top banking analyst with a reputation for blunt honesty. Brown says he recalls a DLJ meeting where an analyst explained their job was to make the stocks they represented look good.

"The line was, 'You have to understand; forgive me, Father, for I have sinned,'" Brown says. "You were going to have to go back to the sales force after having lied to them and tell them that you were wrong."

If there is pressure to lie, it stems from a very simple conflict of interest. Wall Street's brokerage houses make 70 percent of their profits from what's called investment banking: raising money for companies that need cash.

For example, when Amazon needs money, it goes to its broker, Merrill Lynch. And Merrill Lynch offers Amazon stock for sale.

The higher the price, the more the brokerage makes. Now imagine what the analyst is going to tell the public about stock his or her firm wants to sell.

"They really are cheerleaders," Brown says, noting even if analysts cover a company that's not a client of the firm, it could be a potential client. "So the investment banking group wants you to be wildly bullish about everybody."

So if there's bad news about a stock, you're not likely to hear it from the analysts. A 1999 study from Dartmouth College and Cornell University says analysts showed "significant evidence of bias" when they recommend stocks handled by their firm. The study points to an internal company memo from brokerage house Morgan Stanley that tells analysts, "We do not make negative or controversial comments about our clients." Morgan has disavowed that memo.

Recently, though, Morgan Stanley made millions in fees raising money for Priceline. Morgan's analyst, Mary Meeker, recommended buying Priceline's stock at $134 a share.

When it fell to $78, she repeated her buy recommendation. And she kept recommending Priceline as it fell to less than $3.

Are analysts free to be critical of clients of their firms?

"I don't think analysts are so free since I was fired for being critical of, not only clients, but potential clients," Brown says.

Brown was very critical "in the 1995 to 1998 time frame of the mergers and acquisitions activity that was taking place among the largest banks," he says.

"I frankly thought they were paying too much and that they were using unrealistic assumptions and that shareholders were going to be hurt," he declares.

Brown says he was fired because those banks he criticized stopped doing business with DLJ. The company told 60 Minutes II that Brown was fired because of "his persistent inability to operate effectively within a team infrastructure." DLJ insisted there is a separation between investment banking and analysts, and said its analysts are encouraged to be candid.

Brokerage firms say analysts disclose their conflicts of interest in every research report they write. (It's those paragraphs of small print, at the bottom of the page.) Disclosures like these are not good enough for Arthur Levitt, chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, in charge of enforcing the law on Wall Street.

"I think the analyst has a responsibility to reveal a conflict of interest. And that's something that the commission is urging upon the stock exchange...to see to it that their rules are changed in a way which will force the analysts to reveal conflicts," Levitt says.

"There's got to be much greater disclosure of the kinds of conflicts that are part of today's market." Adds Levitt: "I'd say it's less than moral."

One result of these conflicts was the inflation of so-called target prices, analysts' predictions of how high a stock would go. In the wildly speculative Internet market, analysts set inflated targets with no connection to a company's real worth.

The setting of target prices has "been a practice as long as we've had analysts," Levitt says. "If investors are prepared to take that at face value, they have to be prepared for the consequences," Levitt says.

For example Amazon was selling for about $275 a share when a little-known analyst, Henry Blodgett, predicted it would go to $400 - even though Amazon had never made a profit. Amazon did go to $400 and beyond.

Amazon's backer, Merrill Lynch, responded by replacing its pessimistic Amazon analyst. His replacement? Henry Blodgett. While this was great for Blodgett, it proved not so good for investors, many of whom got soaked when Amazon's value fell 75 percent.

Blodgett has said his prediction was based on sound analysis using new ways to measure a company's performance. Wall Street coined a new verb: to "blodgett" a stock.

Former Internet analyst Lise Buyer says experienced hands on Wall Street couldn't make sense of soaring target prices.

"Those of us who've been in the business for a while looked at the wild targets that people were putting out there, and our jaws dropped," says Buyer. "And then we watched the stocks follow suit."

"The market that we had over the past couple of years: Amazon went to 400 because Henry said it would," Buyer says. "It was analysts proclaiming what the stock would do, not analyzing what the businesses said they would do."

One of the differences during the latest stock market frenzy was the success of cable business channels. The shows needed guests; so the analysts became TV stars.

Many appear on CNBC's Squawk Box, hosted by Mark Haines. After a stock was recommended by a guest, he says, "I'd look down at the quote machine, and all of a sudden it had jumped five bucks or 10 bucks."

Thousands, new to investing, were watching the analysts with no idea that a conflict of interest might exist on the stocks they were recommending. CNBC now requires its guests reveal conflicts of interest before they appear.

"When CNBC started 10 years ago, it had a relatively small audience that was almost entirely professional," Haines says. "There was no need to point out these relationships because our viewers knew about them."

"As the audience broadened, more and more and more people were coming to this not knowing the rules," he says.

One of the rules that many analysts live by is never say "sell," because that would drive down the price of the stock. Currently there are about 8,000 analyst stock recommendations, according to Zacks Investment Research, and only 29 sells. That's less than one half of 1 percent.

"You rarely see sell," Buyer says. "It angers management; it doesn't help institutional investing clients....So what you say is, 'We're downgrading this to a 'hold' and believe it promising for those with a three- to five-year investment horizon,' which, for those in the know, means, 'See ya.'"

Not even a company's imminent collapse could force analysts to say sell. Much of Pets.com's financing was raised by Merrill Lynch. Merrill made millions. Merrill's analyst Henry Blodgett made a buy recommendation at $16. When it fell to $7, Blodgett said "buy" again. Again a "buy" at $2 and again at $1.69. When it hit $1.43 a share, Blodgett told investors to "accumulate." Pets.com was recently kicked off the stock exchange.

Investors may have lost a fortune, but last year Blodgett and Meeker were paid about $15 million each. Both analysts declined requests for interviews.

Merrill Lynch, Blodgett's firm, did send 60 Minutes II an email saying its analysts "make independent recommendations based upon their best judgments."

Mary Meeker at Morgan Stanley sent a statement saying, in part, "We maintain a strict separation of the (investment) banking and research functions within the firm. Our research is objective and has a long-term focus."

Buyer, the former Internet analyst, defends most of her former colleagues. She says some analysts work for firms without investment banking clients, and others can take the heat.

Haines notes, however, that investors ignored warnings before the Nasdaq's dramatic drop, even when there were clear indications a company was vulnerable.

"We would invite on the CEOs, and we would interview them, and we would say, 'Do you have any patents?' And they would say 'No.' 'Well, would it be hard for me to go into business to compete with you?' And they'd say 'no,'" Haines says.

"'Do you have any cash?' 'No.' And I'd look down, and the stock would be up $40," observes Haines.

"You would point out the risks; you would point out how crazy it was. There was a mania going on out there where people were just throwing money," Haines adds.

And Haines says investors didn't seem to listen when he pointed out analysts' conflicts of interest on the air. "It was put in their face, and they pulled the lever on the slot machine anyway."

Last year Tom Brown started his own investment company. He decided to leave the analyst game because there's too much pressure to be dishonest, he says. DLJ offered him the usual severance deal, but he rejected it because it required him to keep quiet.

"DLJ offered me $400,000 to not say anything," Brown says. "And I decided in August of '98 that it was worth more for my pride to be able to shout it from the mountaintop that something was wrong, and tell them to keep the $400,000."

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