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To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (76594)10/17/2000 10:04:58 PM
From: SJS  Respond to of 95453
 
OT.....Slider....got this today in my email. It's called: The final debate:
___________

Presidential Debate Summary
> >
> > For those who don't have time to watch the presidential debate tonight, I have been given a this transcript of what will be said:
> >
> > Jim Lehrer: Welcome to the third and final presidential debate between Vice President Al Gore and Gov. George W. Bush.
> >
> > The candidates have agreed on these rules: I will ask a question. The candidate will ignore the question and deliver rehearsed remarks designed to appeal to undecided women voters.
> >
> > The opponent will then have one minute to respond by trying to frighten senior citizens into voting for him.
> >
> > When a speaker's time has expired, I will whimper softly while he continues to spew incomprehensible statistics for three more minutes.
> >
> > Let's start with the vice president. Mr. Gore, can you give us the name of a downtrodden citizen and then tell us his or her story in a way that strains the bounds of common sense?
> >
> > Gore: As I was saying to Tipper last night after we tenderly made love the way we have so often during the 30 years of our rock-solid marriage, the downtrodden have a clear choice in this election.
> >
> > My opponent wants to cut taxes for the richest 1 percent of Americans. I, on the other hand, want to put the richest 1 percent in an ironclad lock box so they can't hurt old people like Roberta Frampinhamper, who is here
> tonight.
> >
> > Mrs. Frampinhamper has been selling her internal organs, one by one, to pay for gas so that she can travel to these debates and personify problems for me. Also, her poodle has arthritis.
> >
> > Lehrer: Gov. Bush, your rebuttal.
> >
> > Bush: Governors are on the front lines every day, hugging people, crying with them, relieving suffering anywhere a photo opportunity exists. I want to empower those crying people to make their own decisions, unlike my
opponent, whose mother is not Barbara Bush.
> >
> > Lehrer: Let's turn to foreign affairs.
> >
> > Gov. Bush, if Slobodan Milosevic were to launch a bid to return to power in Yugoslavia, would you be able to pronounce his name?
> >
> > Bush: The current administration had eight years to deal with that guy and didn't get it done.
> >
> > If I'm elected, the first thing I would do about that guy is have Dick Cheney confer with our allies. And then Dick would present me several options for dealing with that guy. And then Dick would tell me which one to choose.
> >
> > You know, as governor of Texas, I have to make tough foreign policy decisions every day about how we're going to deal with New Mexico.
> >
> > Lehrer: Mr. Gore, your rebuttal.
> >
> > Gore: Foreign policy is something I've always been keenly interested in.
> >
> > I served my country in Vietnam. I had an uncle who was a victim of poison gas in World War I. I myself lost a leg in the Franco-Prussian War. And when that war was over, I came home and tenderly made love to Tipper in a way that any
> > undecided woman voter would find romantic.
> >
> > If I'm entrusted with the office of president, I pledge to deal knowledgeably with any threat, foreign or domestic, by putting it in an ironclad lock box. Because the American people deserve a president who can comfort them with simple metaphors.
> >
> > Lehrer: Vice President Gore, how would you reform the Social Security system?
> >
> > Gore: It's a vital issue, Jim. That's why Joe Lieberman and I have proposed changing the laws of mathematics to allow us to give $50,000 to every senior citizen without having it cost the federal treasury a single penny until the
year 2250.
> >
> > In addition, my budget commits $60 trillion over the next 10 years to guarantee that all senior citizens can have drugs delivered free to their homes every Monday by a federal employee who will also help them with the child-proof cap.
> >
> > Lehrer: Gov. Bush?
> >
> > Bush: That's fuzzy math. I know, because as governor of Texas, I have to do math every day. I have to add up the numbers and decide whether I'm going to fill potholes out on Rt. 36 east of Abilene or commit funds to reroof the
sheep barn at the Texas state fairgrounds.
> >
> > Lehrer: It's time for closing statements.
> >
> > Gore: I'm my own man. I may not be the most exciting politician, but I will fight for the working families of America, in addition to turning the White House into a lusty pit of marital love for Tipper and me.
> >
> > Bush: It's time to put aside the partisanship of the past by electing no one but Republicans.
> >
> > Lehrer: Good night.



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (76594)10/18/2000 1:27:17 AM
From: CpsOmis  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 95453
 
OT.....Re: Gore's toast...

I agree with your observations Slider, but you seem to be not using the "honest dispassionate observer skills" that you have shown so well with your commentary about the stock market in your assesment of the presidential race...

Bush sold a load of crap tonight as well. Believe me, I was pulling for him, but he just babbled "Trust me, I'm a leader in Texas" and did not show much grasp of the details. A truly Reaganesque "nice guy in a suit" image.
IT WILL "SELL IN PREORIA", but, be honest, he spread a lot of bullshit in response to a number of questions he was asked. Always polite, always nice, always the image of a man who can get people to work together, but his image is one of someone who would be great getting people to organize a church fund-raiser, not of one to moderate the major disputes of a superpower.

However, he has my vote and my support. I am not voting "against" Gore, but "FOR" GW. Besides my core libertarian/Republican philosophical leanings, my reasoning can be summed up in one word:

MATURITY

Do you want an arrogant man-child who would STILL get beat up in the school yard TODAY as an ADULT? (because he is such a "arrogant priss". Or, do you want someone who constantly needs to prove his superiority (pay particularly close attention here "certain poster(s)"...y'all know who you are) Or do you want someone willing to let slights and jabs and boorish behavior slide on by (no pun intended) and behave in a civilized professional manner, as GW did tonight?

Its MATURITY people!!!!!!!...... (notice I didn't say "stupid"...I think this phrase was started by a democratic campaigner...Carville was it? and I detest the mean spiritedness of it)

Who would you rather let negotiate world conflicts and get good people to run the country? Someone who's pride forces them to always show they are right? Or someone mature enough to recognize that there is more to the world than EGO GRATIFICATION!!!!!!!!??????

I am so SICK OF THIS ARROGANT EGO-CENTRIC ME FIRST BATCH OF SPOILED YUPPIES IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!!

Ok, I feel better now..........................

Cosmo



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (76594)10/18/2000 9:54:28 AM
From: diana g  Respond to of 95453
 
<<<Off Topic>>> Judging Character

Slider, I am impressed with your insight into the character of the vp.
You seem to have a special talent for spotting someone with such traits.
Hmmmm....

Quotes from you (without further comment by me) ----

"...There is no sincerity to this man; it literally doesn't exist within him...

"...in watching this man - one can not help but seeing a Slick, shark suited Used Car Salesman talking thru you, not to you. A chameleon, more clinton-like than I originally had thought. This man is a phony...

"...sociopath...who's literally formed a lifelong habit of lying & embellishing to a degree that its automatic & uncontrollable..."