To: PartyTime who wrote (48709 ) 10/18/2000 8:37:19 PM From: Joseph F. Hubel Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670 Ok, I'll try to answer. To be honest, I'm not sure to what degree most European leaders are either liberal or conservative. Not even certain it's pertinent to our debate. For some time England was conservative during Thatcher, now it has a pansy liberal,(I don't say pansy because he is a liberal) and a mediocre economy at best and what I would consider dismal health services much in the same vein as Canada's. France for some time changed governments more often than I changed my oil but I would not put much stock in anything they did. Germany has had both but for the most part stays clear of conservatism because of it's past. But whatever, by your post I would not be incorrect if I assumed your point was they are currently liberal. Regardless, the jury is still out on many of Europe's recent undertakings. But let's get to the last part of your post. I don't and I certainly refuse to believe you think that any presidential candidate is not groomed, rehearsed, made up and otherwise handled in almost the same manner as an actor. Very few people on this planet hold in their mind for immediate use every fact in the universe and that is why we have libraries, computers and file storage. A good CEO or president appoints and surrounds himself with experts and advisors in a given area where there is a need. It has been shown that good leaders do this. It stands to reason therefore that Mr. Bush would do the same. Failing to do this and attempting to expertly know all is why a fine person like Jimmy Carter had a dismal presidency. There obviously must be considerable substance to Mr. Bush or the party would not have taken such a big gamble on him. There is substance to Gore as well, it just happens to be brown. JFH