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To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (33569)10/19/2000 1:07:37 AM
From: Chris  Respond to of 42787
 
excellent post.. can you briefly talk about your new indicator? momentum/ob/os?

short term or mid term?

i want to know what frame of mind are you looking for indicator development.

right now, the secret momentum indicator is doing well.. some MA, S&R analysis. that's it..

still requires work, but better than having 10 indicators on my screen when i first started trading -ggg-



To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (33569)10/19/2000 1:11:07 AM
From: Chris  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42787
 
fyi : im skeptical that today was the bottom..

one probable hint (not a 100% accurate), is that we rallied from -400 way to fast in the morning.



To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (33569)10/19/2000 1:31:59 AM
From: TWICK  Respond to of 42787
 
On the flip side... Everyone wanting the "big" flush to happen so a final bottom can be called, are no different than the hopeful fools. I mean bulls.

Say we get that big tank, flush, panic sell-off. Then what ? They expect that to trigger a huge rally the next day ? They honestly think that suddenly all this money is going to come pouring in to the markets and all will be good and happily the bull market will resume without looking back. ROFL !!!

Ahhh. They are just as foolish as the ones hanging on to their paper losses, hoping their Internuts will come back from a temporary 75% haircut.

Patience. It's something we, as the Internet society, are losing. It will be our biggest failure.

Twick



To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (33569)10/19/2000 8:57:59 AM
From: bobby beara  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42787
 
>>>There is no fear, no capitulation>>>

lee, there is fear and capitulation if you have giddy iddy louis navalier despondent and calling for lower prices, vix at 36 and put/calls at 1.

b



To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (33569)10/19/2000 11:43:26 AM
From: HairBall  Respond to of 42787
 
Lee: I will refrain from addressing this post until I get back...

LG



To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (33569)10/20/2000 9:24:39 PM
From: baggo  Respond to of 42787
 
Most insightful post I've read in weeks.
Problem is illiquidity and expiry ran the bad boys the last two days. We'll test 3k again and maybe lowa. The whipsaw continues.
regards,
BRICE
too scared to long, too dumb to short; a scalping fiend



To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (33569)10/20/2000 11:52:03 PM
From: Dan Spillane  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42787
 
Why do you "have to" have capitulation, and the way you want it?

Capitulation is based on stupidity and fear, not fundamentals.

Does October make capitulation an investment principle?



To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (33569)10/21/2000 10:42:50 AM
From: OldAIMGuy  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 42787
 
Hi Lee, Great Rant!

RE: "High Low ratios, our new indicator"

I've used Fosback's Hi/Low Logic formula for many years with good success on calling events about 3 months out. I have solid data from 1986 and pretty good data from 1982 through 1985.

Fosback takes the smaller of either the new highs or the new lows and divides it by the total number of issues being traded on that exchange. He used the NYSE.

I decided to use the same formula but apply it to the NASDAQ where I've had much of my money invested over the years. A week ago, for instance, there were 77 new highs and 1031 new lows on the NASDAQ with just over 5000 issues traded for the week. So, this looks to be about 1.5% when we divide the smaller number by the total issues.

In reviewing my database, it was my opinion that the Neutral range is from about 2.75% to 4.25%, with high Bearish above and Bullish below. Last week was the first Bullish reading in some time. It's been neutral to bearish for a while. Also of interest is that it's been very rare since '93 that we've had only double digits of new highs simultaneous with four digit new lows.

I call this index the Divergence component. If there are both lots of new highs and new lows simultaneously then there's significant divergent thinking. Conversely, if there's lots of one but very few of the other statistic, then everyone is thinking the same thing.

The previous week's emphasis on New Lows with very few New Highs indicates all the ducks are lined up. This has historically been a bullish sign on its own. What's also very interesting is that had the values of the New Highs and Lows been reversed, we still would have had the same bullish reading. This was Fosback's cogent deduction.

The raw data can be viewed and saved from:
aim-users.com
and look for Divergence Data

Since the data is as reactive as the markets themselves, I use a 10 week exponential moving average to smooth the values and get rid of "noise." To see what it looks like since about 1997, click on
aim-users.com
this can be compared to
aim-users.com
for close to the same time frame.

I'll be updating all of these graphs next week. I usually just do it once per month.

Hope this helps those interested in this kind of data.

Best regards, Tom



To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (33569)10/22/2000 5:37:07 PM
From: James F. Hopkins  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 42787
 
Hey you got on "cool" post, but your post sounded sorta
HOT.., well at least warm any way :-)

If this market wants any of my money it's got to go
lower and if it don't by next month I'm just going to
spend it buying a boat and becoming a pirate.

Ever since I was a kid I wanted to be pirate , and
times a running out. Do you know where I can find a
Salty Crew ?