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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (15267)10/20/2000 4:26:35 PM
From: quasar_1Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Monkey Darts...

The anticipation of AMD losing the Mhz lead is hurting it's stock price right now. Trust me...

With all due respect I don't agree. The stock has tanked primarily due to market conditions, especially in the chip sector. If what you are saying is true there would be very little beta correlation between AMD and the chip sector/general market and that simply isn't the case.

The markets look 6-12 months out.

I don't agree with that either. The markets are driven by herd psychology. The 6-12 months out is an old adage that has almost no basis in fact. According to a Robert Colby and Tom Myers in the Encyclopedia of Technical Market Indicators:

"Assuming perfect earnings forecasting ability and using the four quarter moving total of trailing earnings for the S&P 500, as published in the Standard & Poor's Statistical Record, our decision rule was to buy two quarters before a upturn in earnings and to sell and sell short two quarters before a downturn in earnings. Suprisingly, the historical result of perfect earnings forecasting were very poor, particularly after 1973...total accumulative profit amounted to 21.47 S&P points from 1944 through 1986-only 8% of the profits of our combined price and dividend model...The maximum equity drawdown was 97.63 S&P points. These results would be devastating to virtually any investor."

The market usually looks in the rear view mirror. That is why it took so long for them to notice the oil prices going up, the Euro falling, and Interest rates rising. All of these factors were in place during the great ‘BS’ rise of late '99 early '00. It wasn't until the bubble broke that these 'reasons' were conveniently trotted out. The real reasons, price begets price. The market goes up because its going up (greed) and goes down because its going down (fear). Fundamental value is usually in the lower part of the price matrix as fear is more powerful than greed (I'm going to lose everything vs. I want that new Nissan Sentra.)

Intel may have mucked up in the recent past but there is a lot of anticipation that they won't muck up forever.

Of course they won't. They have a lot more wherewithal due to their gorilla status than little AMD. But they still have to do it.

They are hog tied by Rambus now but by their own admission RAMBUS was a mistake and they will be moving on to DDR and back to SDRAM for the P4.

The P4 will probably support both. My question is if I could see the Rambus debacle was a mistake a year ago and I am just a clown at a keyboard, why couldn't they? Therein lies the core problem. When you sail the Titanic, it's hard to turn around even if you see the iceberg. On the positive side it takes a really big 'berg to bring her down.

The P4 will out-scale the current Athlon core.

I'll take your word for it. This also assumes AMD will sit on it's hands.

This is what Analysts are looking at.

Kumar isn't. He told everyone to sell into this rise. He is worried. He is the ax. From my experience analysts follow each other like penguins. Nobody ever got fired for recommending the sure thing. I can't make any money from them so why do I care what they say. They are as wrong as right so are essentially useless...including the aforementioned Kumar. Nobody can predict the future.

AMD had better have an answer because sooner or later the continuous reprieves from Intel may well run out...

You must always answer your competition. This is the nature of a free market. If AMD blows it they will be punished. But Intel also has something to prove. Right now all we can do is extrapolate the present and judge the execution of the stated strategies. AMD seems to be doing better than Intel. Does this have any predictive value. No.

But it's a little better than a monkey with a set of darts...

quasar



To: Jim McMannis who wrote (15267)10/20/2000 9:06:33 PM
From: Paul EngelRespond to of 275872
 
Re: "The P4 will out-scale the current Athlon core."

AMD..gotta get to Mustank.