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To: sandintoes who wrote (1322)	10/20/2000 9:22:26 PM
From: Cisco	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1719

SATURDAY OCTOBER 21 2000 Clinton wounded by Gore's rejection FROM IAN BRODIE IN WASHINGTON WITH 18 days to the American election, President Clinton is itching to get on the road to help Al Gore, but the embattled Vice-President is keeping his distance from the man he wants to succeed in the White House. They probably will not appear together. Instead, Mr Clinton will go on his own to get-out-the-vote events. The chasm that has opened between the two men who seemed so chummy when they first ran for office together is said to have left the President bewildered and hurt. When Mr Gore returned to Washington last week for crisis talks on the Middle East, it was the first time that he had set foot in the White House since May 22. He did not telephone and Mr Clinton, who thinks that the Gore campaign needs urgent help in countering the momentum of George W. Bush, the Republican candidate, cannot understand why, according to yesterday’s New York Times. By this account, Mr Clinton believes that Mr Gore has been getting bad advice over the debates from people who seemed to have coached all the fight out of him. When a friend asked why he did not call Mr Gore, the President said that he did not want to meddle, although he cannot resist phoning Gore campaign managers to offer advice. Nor could he pass up a chance to criticise Mr Bush’s debate performance to a congressional group. “I almost gagged,” he said, when the Texas Governor took credit for the passage of a patients’ Bill of Rights after vetoing it. Mr Clinton’s skills at bonding with audiences exceed those of Mr Gore. The President connects with blacks and others who are rock solid support in the Democratic base. These are the voters that he will implore to turn out in vast numbers. There are fears that bringing Mr Clinton in to help at this time may turn off swing and independent voters by reminding them of Monica Lewinsky and other scandals that have tarnished the Clinton presidential tenure. Just this week, Mr Gore said on a television chat show that he hoped he had not been tarnished by the President’s failings. “I condemned his personal mistake and I do so again,” Mr Gore said. Yesterday he insisted Mr Clinton was his friend and he welcomed his help. But when Mr Clinton lied to Mr Gore in denying his relationship with Ms Lewinsky it essentially ended whatever friendship has existed between them. Things were never the same and although Mr Gore publicly supported the President, he is widely said to have been was privately sickened by Mr Clinton’s behaviour. The Lewinsky saga also left an open sore of antipathy between the two men’s families. Tipper Gore and Hillary Clinton were never especially close, despite their on-stage hugs, and after Mrs Gore and her daughters let it be known they were appalled by the Lewinsky affair, Mrs Clinton never forgot it, a friend of hers said. Tensions also grew between the Clintons and Gores when Mrs Clinton announced her run for the US Senate from New York. This led to competition and pent-up political ambitions between the Senate candidate, the presidential candidate and the President over who should go to what events. Political rivals from the South, the two men had only met once before 1992, the year Mr Clinton, then Governor of Arkansas, picked Mr Gore, then a Senator from Tennessee, as natural ally and fellow policy “wonk”. Asked to clarify what happens next, a Gore campaign spokesman said yesterday: “I’d like to emphasise Gore is running as his own man, speaking from his own heart.” Maybe, but at the same time the White House press secretary warned reporters they would soon be travelling a lot. “Pack your bags and get ready,” he said. thetimes.co.uk

To: sandintoes who wrote (1322)	10/21/2000 10:49:26 AM
From: PartyTime	Respond to of 1719

>>>I have something new to bring up, as a matter of fact without turning to a filth publisher... I was thinking tonight how Bill, Gore and HILLARY are all known to be liars, and liars without conscience! I was trying to think of all the lies that Hillary told..just a few. She was related to Hillary, the mountain climber. Her grandfather was Jewish, and she just remembered it. She didn't remember hiring the man who had all of the Republican's files in the White House. The list goes on...Bird's of a feather!<<< Fact is if the GOPwinger two-pronged strategy (stealing Gore's issues and painting Gore a "liar") wasn't in play, you wouldn't be thinking that way. Instead of falling for the GOPwinger Smear Parade approach, you'd be discussing real issues, the kinds of issues children get taught in their civics classes in the schools. If you think distortion should be the prevailing wisdom in presidential campaigns, well, er, go ahead and continue to disillusion not only yourself, but children in the midst of learning about their country. Me thinks if you spend your time thinking, you should consider other thoughts. (LOL)