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To: Paul Engel who wrote (114659)	10/21/2000 10:47:24 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

RE:"Forget Rambus - you have forgotten your own slogan. MHz Sells - and when Intel has the fastest processor available with the Pentium 4 - and the system prices are reasonable - the Pentium 4 will sell - with Rambus memory or core memory or." Slogan...it's my understanding that Mhz sells (TM-McMannis)is a law (G). Of course it's subject to interpretation...like IPC, so we'll have to see. This is the main reason I haven't given up on Intel and hold out hope for the future. I don't think we disagree that much. I clearly think that Intel will sell as many Willamettes are they want to or need to. They will cut price to Dell and send that $70 bill if they have to. RE:"Once SDRAM and/or DDR SDRAM chip sets - and 0.13 micron Pentium 4 (Northwood) are available in Q3 of 2001, the Intel manufacturing engine will be revved up to make AMD's life - shall we say - "very interesting"." You're preaching to the choir. I've been saying this for months. If and when it comes to pass (coupled with the demise of Rambus) it will be yet another vision come true just as the demise of Timna was that I predicted 6 months before it happened. OTOH, there have been a lot of others predicting the demise of Rambus that that part of it will be lost in a crowd. How do you see Clamjammer and Sludgepumper vs P4 w/DDR and Itanium provided they would release about the same time, just for comparisons sake? Leave out your arguement the P4 on .13 w/DDR will release 6 months earlier (it won't, wink)...blah blah blah... Jim

To: Paul Engel who wrote (114659)	10/22/2000 10:40:57 AM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Re: The only price I've seen for a "special order" 1.2 GHz ThumperTurd id $2500 That's for a machine with a 19" monitor, 60 gig hard drive, and $400 video card. If you want to compare CPUs in systems, configure them similarly: gateway.com Gateway Select 1200 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To print this page, click the Print button at the very top of the screen or click on File in the upper left corner and then choose Print. To return to the previous page, click the "back" button below or your browser's back button. Configured Price: US $1759 Total Price: US $1759 Hard Drive 20GB Ultra ATA hard drive subtracted: US$195 Limited Warranty Program 3 Years Limited Warranty, 1 Year On-Site Service, Limited Hardware & Software Tech Support as long as you own your system Operating System Microsoft® Windows® Millennium Edition Modem Home Networking/56k Modem Combo Card Processor AMD Athlon™ 1200MHz Processor with New Performance Enhancing Cache Memory ISP 1 Year America Online Internet Access Memory 128MB 133MHz SDRAM expandable to 768MB Sound System Sound Blaster AudioPCI 128D subtracted: US$30 Speakers Boston Acoustics BA265 Speakers subtracted: US$40 Monitor EV700 17" Color Monitor (15.9" viewable area) subtracted: US$140 Application Software Microsoft® Works Suite 2000 - Including Microsoft® Word and Encarta Video 32MB NVIDIA™ RIVA TNT2™ M64 Graphics subtracted: US$335 Case New Gateway Mid-Tower Case Keyboard Multi-function Keyboard Mouse PS/2 Mouse and Gateway Mouse Pad Expansion Slots 5 PCI and 1 4X AGP Anti-Virus Software Norton Anti-Virus Software Floppy Drive 3.5" 1.44MB diskette drive CD-ROM or DVD 16X/40X DVD-ROM Drive (including Rand McNally Explore America on DVD)