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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Dayuhan who wrote (2297)10/23/2000 5:53:08 AM
From: Greg or e  Respond to of 28931
 
Hi Steve my note to E probably applies to you as well, but just a short response before I hit the hay.
That is an Interesting definition of evil.
"evil, in the sense that they refuse to place the rules that the community develops for its own protection above their own impulses."
By that definition if I speed a little in my car thereby placing my impulse not to be late for dinner, over the community developed speed limit, then I would be Evil. I think you have emptied the word of it's contents and then switched the meaning of the word. But I'm too tired to think.
Goodnight
Greg



To: Dayuhan who wrote (2297)10/23/2000 12:06:39 PM
From: E  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
People obey the law because they are know that if they are caught they will
be punished. It is only the law, that inane and arbitrary guideline of which
you speak, and the mechanisms we have created to enforce it, that prevent
the evil ones from doing whatever they choose.


I know what you're saying, but I don't believe that it's "only" the law that... etc., because we internalize our cultural/societal rules, and they become conscience. It isn't against the law to give your child turnips and only turnips for Christmas, but some evil parents have done it, and most of those who provide happy Christmases for their children do so not because the law makes them, but because they love their children and would feel not only sad, but immoral and socially ashamed if they didn't do their best by them.

I thought of turnips because I actually know a woman whose (Christian, though this is irrelevant imo) parents, who were broke at Christmas, told their little daughters, when they asked if they would have any Christmas presents, given that they had no money, "Oh, something will turn up.

Turn up = turnip. The little girls' Christmas stockings had in them only turnips. Her parents thought it a funny joke.

Isn't that horrid and bizarre? This woman is a very messed up adult, unsurprisingly.

Maybe you will say that in "and the mechanisms we have create to enforce it" you include conscience, shame, shunning, etc. Chickens and eggs come to mind, of course.