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To: Cary Salsberg who wrote (38718)	10/25/2000 12:03:16 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 70976

The "state and local level" is where segregation and Jim Crow were supported and maintained and where separation of church and state is currently being thwarted. Current crop of governors have done good work--both democrats and republicans. How do they thwart separation of church and state? Are you alluding to vouchers or is there more involved? Segregation and Jim Crow were supported in the south at the state and local level but how is that relevent now. Southern governors have long ago abandoned those issues. Cary, you sound like a knee jerk liberal and your generalizations distort the truth.

To: Cary Salsberg who wrote (38718)	10/25/2000 12:33:49 PM
From: Lone Star	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 70976

OT Cary, caring and trying is great if it effects the help or changes intended, but is harmful when it makes matters worse. The Social security system and all these "entitlements" programs have created a bloated monster of our fedral government in way never intended; a safety net is fine, a hammock does harm. Most of the money fed into the government is used up in the bureaucracy and only some gets to the intended needy, and waste and graft is rampant in large uncontrollable programs. Charity and aid at the local level is efficient and manageable. A nation of pioneers and immigrants, the idea of self-sufficiencey for oneself, family, and community has been replaced with a Big Brother nightmare.